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Post by steve66 Sun Nov 29 2009, 17:57

Hi All,
Does anyone know how to undo the valve caps on a Lister H3 pump?
If i have to drill them out, can i get new ones?
They are very tight as some time in the past someone has had a go at the end plug and made a mess right mess of it.
the small drive gears are very worn, the teeth are almost pointed, the piston is very rusted and the crosshead had to be cut
to get the con rods off.
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Post by Foden Sun Nov 29 2009, 18:50

Is that the caps with the internal square Steve? If so I would get some square section bar or tube that is a tight fit and weld it to make a T shaped key, that should shift them though you may have to warm the cast iron of the pump. Be careful as the threads can strip on the brass caps when you unscrew them, replacements would be very hard to find. I have done an H1 and the caps came off ok.

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Post by steve66 Sun Nov 29 2009, 19:30

Hi Foden,
It is the one with the internal squares. i have a 1 inch square drive tee bar with about 4 feet of pipe on it,
not a hint of movement, i have warmed it up, still nothing.
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Post by Foden Sun Nov 29 2009, 19:39

Seems like you have a tough one there Steve! I can only suggest more heat, the H1 that I did I had cherry red BUT then the cap may move but leave the threads behind, thus ruining the cap. Does the cap HAVE to come off, or are you just checking the rubber valves? Leave well alone if possible.

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Post by Admin Sun Nov 29 2009, 19:46

that with an industrial breaker bar mite do summit, your quite local arnt you, ill see if i can sort something, its the same caps as on a lister a and b head i think

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Post by steve66 Sun Nov 29 2009, 20:53

https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/14/37/65/90/61712.jpg
this is the pump when i got it.
https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/14/37/65/90/69214.jpg
the end cap
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one of the worn gears
https://i.servimg.com/u/f97/14/37/65/90/69110.jpg

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Post by Foden Sun Nov 29 2009, 21:02

It's had a good bit of looking at Steve!! And I was concerned about you damaging the caps. Smile

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Post by JONESEY Sun Nov 29 2009, 22:06

Try useing an impact wrench if you were closer you could borrow mine, they have the juder to move them
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 29 2009, 22:45

Try a plant hire company they'll have one they maybe could let you use.

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Post by Lister John Sun Nov 29 2009, 22:53

Hi Steve

After the trouble ive had recently with steel nuts on a brass bar I would say dont be surprised if it breaks!

Sounds harsh but I had a garage try and remove steel nuts of the climax pump so as to fit new piston cups, and as a result I now need a new brass par turned up for me.

Keep us posted though Smile
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Post by steve66 Sat Dec 19 2009, 11:52

Hi All,
Thanks for all your help and advice, i have now removed the caps with only
minor damage. it is easy with a big vice, 1" square drive T bar, 5 feet of gas pipe and
a lot of slow heating, only took about 1/2 hour.
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Post by Admin Sat Dec 19 2009, 13:29

ive had things like that , before I had Graham Martian heat the flywheel on my old D for 2 hours, still didnt come off Very Happy

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