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a bit of a swap.

Post by earlsinclare on Sat Jan 01 2011, 13:24

this came to me on saturday with my restored a1+ going in the other direction.
the engine does run but it needs a new head gasket and the correct silencer. hopefuly i will be able to find one soon.


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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by billypurves on Sat Jan 01 2011, 18:56

I would think you done well out of the deal. Well done.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by mike d on Sat Jan 01 2011, 21:09

excellent engines those Fowler's...

been looking for one to give to my son,so he can show with us....

well done ......

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by RAB on Sat Jan 01 2011, 21:17

Wot a result,

I like the Fowler Engines, im thinking about getting either a Fowler or a Wolselly, havent made my mind up yet.

Well done that man.

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fowler pa

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Jan 02 2011, 19:31

the engine had low compression but i noticed some air bubbles in the hopper, so off with its head only to find that it was still the original gasket that had been re-used and had been stuck down with lots of instant gasket. i'm now waiting for the head gasket material to arrive so that i can make a new one.
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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Guest on Mon Jan 10 2011, 12:41

Hi Richard.

you lucky beggar!

i too have a 1PA, yours has the bigger hopper fitted, but both engines are essentially the same.

theres lots to check on it because many of the components were built down to price and make for a restorers headache!

the carb might leak, or cause erratic running, you just need to flatten the mating surfaces down accurately.

frost damage to the block is not uncommen either, so look out for rust stains when it warms up.

Dave at stationary engines scotland has an extensive knowledge, as does phillip Thornton-Evison.

aside from that best of luck!

Cheers.

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a new head gasket.

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Jan 16 2011, 18:16

the head gasket material has finally arrived between slow ebay sellers and the royal 'snail' mail it took the best part of 3 weeks. just need to cut a new one and refit the head. i have reground the valves and cleaned up the cylinder, hopefuly this will improve the compression. then its time to decide to repaint or not.
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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by RAB on Sun Jan 16 2011, 18:25

Hi Earl,

Best of luck with the head gasket hope all works out for you.

As for painting it, well theres a question, I would leave it as it is but others would say paint it.

Thats a question that only the owner knows as its down to personal prefrance.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Jan 16 2011, 18:37

its not original paint, it has been repainted at some time in the past, the quality of the paintwork is not the best but i have seen worse.
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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Guest on Mon Jan 17 2011, 08:16

good stuff,

i believe frank gelder does the correct exhaust for it, the one with the squashed end on (though not all had that btw) but not sure on the price, you may actually be able to adapt the one it has to a more fowler like appearance Smile

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painting

Post by earlsinclare on Thu Feb 10 2011, 07:29

i've decided to repaint the fowler, after looking at it for too long you start to see more bits you don't like. so its out with the painting stuff and start the prep.
thanks Earl.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by mike d on Thu Feb 10 2011, 12:26

HI RICHARD...

you must let us see the finished item....

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first run in the shed.

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Feb 13 2011, 15:57

repainted, just waiting for the new transfers to arrive.

hope you like it
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Post by RAB on Sun Feb 13 2011, 16:33

Hi Earl,

Looking good bud.

Where do you get your transfers from?

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transfers.

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Feb 13 2011, 18:55

kelsey publishing advertise them in the SEM.
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Post by BRASSO on Mon Feb 14 2011, 09:42

Nice paint job Earl.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by mike d on Mon Feb 14 2011, 11:38

hi Richard...

looks nice,well worth the swap.....
i see you have changed the exhaust,has it now got the rite one on it......

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silencer.

Post by earlsinclare on Mon Feb 14 2011, 18:12

no that is not the correct silencer, it came from stationary engine parts for another project that never got going, original copies are available, maybe i'll find one at the shows in the summer. the silencer still lets the engine run quietly.
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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Villiers on Mon Feb 14 2011, 18:24

I'm not 100% sure but didn't it have the propper one on to start with? I know Fowlers had an exhaust like the one in the first picture as standard and I would have thought it was the right one.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Guest on Mon Feb 14 2011, 18:36

Villiers wrote:I'm not 100% sure but didn't it have the propper one on to start with? I know Fowlers had an exhaust like the one in the first picture as standard and I would have thought it was the right one.

i thought that too, and that it was just 90 degrees out of its normal orientation

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Post by Guest on Mon Feb 14 2011, 18:56

About 3/4 way down the page shows the exhausts fitted to the Fowler P* range.

http://www.stationaryenginesscotland.co.uk/FowlerPages/enginefeatures.htm

This site can tell you all you will every want to know about fowlers

http://www.stationaryenginesscotland.co.uk/FowlerPages/Fowlerhome.htm

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Villiers on Mon Feb 14 2011, 19:06

Ah-ha! I was sort of right then, it should be a larger muffler type but on the vertical! Strange that as a lot of Fowlups have a horizontal exhaust!

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the exhaust

Post by earlsinclare on Mon Feb 14 2011, 21:00

the silencer in the first picture was home made from very heavy steel and i don't think it was baffled, the engine would not run how i wanted it too with that silencer so a smaller one was fitted until i can find a replacement one.
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finished.

Post by earlsinclare on Sun Feb 20 2011, 15:47


it is now finished, it starts first swing and runs very quietly.

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Re: a bit of a swap.

Post by Guest on Sun Feb 20 2011, 16:28

Looks lovely,

can i convince you to bring it to shildon VVS in april and rally it alongside my 1PA?

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