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Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Nov 05 2011, 22:35

hi there
just got in from collecting my VILLIERS WX11 WAH 200
REMOVED FROM TROLLEY FOR TRANSporting in boot of my car
couldnt do that with my lister A lol
will fit to trolley and see if theres life in here
FINGERS CROSSED
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Post by matt86 on Sat Nov 05 2011, 22:47

good luck with your new project .

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Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Nov 05 2011, 23:34

matt86_wd2 wrote:good luck with your new project .

regards , matt

cheers matt thanks for that
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happy shed building to you
saying that ive runn out of shed space for this one
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Post by matt86 on Sat Nov 05 2011, 23:38

kevjhnsn wrote:
matt86_wd2 wrote:good luck with your new project .

regards , matt

cheers matt thanks for that
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happy shed building to you
saying that ive runn out of shed space for this one
thanks kev

Cheers kev , surpose you have seen what i have done so far lol , that why im building another one lol u wait a year or so there will be 3 shed probably lol lol!

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Re: villiers wx11 collected and home

Post by kevjhnsn on Sun Nov 06 2011, 03:46

yeah mate
i worry about how many i have at home now and if the wife looks """ HANGMAN " for me
lister a , petter a1 , villiers 25 tvo ,25hs ,25c ,20hs ,20c ,20 and 25 kickstarts mk 7 10 12 12 12 10 12 midget ,blackwell jlo ,climax pump , lister and centrifugal pumps all on trolleys , villiers water and genny sets petrol and gas , bsa 170 jap 2a , jap 2s gas ect ect most are in need of a now running just needing a facelift before storing or rallying just missing some john deere opencranks and a petter m or 2 my new targets for the future see how things go with whaat i have for now
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Post by stationary stu on Sun Nov 06 2011, 10:32

Great news Kev, hope shes a good runner with no problems.

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Ps I don't list my engines now so her in doors can't see how many there is, I've 2 sheds and a garage and still they have to stand outside Laughing Laughing

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Post by Foden on Sun Nov 06 2011, 12:51

I had my eyes on a Villier WX11 but it was over in Suffolk, why are they NEVER on your doorstep eh ha ha! Mad I had previously been put off them by folk telling me about the fuel consumption, but I STILL like the things!

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Post by Guest on Sun Nov 06 2011, 16:40

Foden wrote:I had my eyes on a Villier WX11 but it was over in Suffolk, why are they NEVER on your doorstep eh ha ha! Mad I had previously been put off them by folk telling me about the fuel consumption, but I STILL like the things!

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Half a Gallon if that a day, my grandfathers would run on a full fuel tank with just a top up to for a weekend, my Tank cooled was about the same drinking about 3-4 pints.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Sun Nov 06 2011, 19:24

HI THERE
ive just remonted the wx11 wah 200 to the trolley and this is my fire up
there is a miss fire thinking its the timing what all think ?????????????????

http://youtu.be/sQQBwwXs0TQ
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Post by kevjhnsn on Sun Nov 06 2011, 19:32

wx11 wah 200 video 2
moved the timing slightly but think it needs moving slightly more but runs at alower rpm now and less miss firing
theres no spark until you pull it over at a high rpm

http://youtu.be/xYg5wuRSFk4

any idea the couse as normally theres a sparrk or no spark with aircooled villiers at any rpm from 1-2 rpm upwards
again im confused dot.com
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Re: villiers wx11 collected and home

Post by Guest on Sun Nov 06 2011, 19:45

Two stroke will misfire off load, need a fair amount to get them to two stroke proper, you dont want to run them to slow want to make sure the oil gets around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOoJJjfqj3k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDXH7And2cg

I normally set the points as in my Video then adjust the length of the throttle rod to slow them down.

Cheers Steve

Edit, seen the misfire now, most likely timing, what mixture are you running?

This is how you would time it pretty much to the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-CFyTKFqU

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Post by kevjhnsn on Sun Nov 06 2011, 19:53

i used your video cheers steve
as my guide early on to day will take a look at your others you sent me as ive now set the flywheel timing mark about 1/2" before tdc fixed mark on backplate
as seen in video 2 running
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Post by stationary stu on Mon Nov 07 2011, 10:54

Is it just me or is there some kind of knock as if it's firing at the wrong time? I'm sure you'll soon sort it and hve it running smooth Kev, just trail and error, sometime I find it's best to set something on the marks then alter it to run better, if you don't know the full engine history you don't know what's been changed or altered over the years.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 07 2011, 11:31

Running slow will show any knocks that are there.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Mon Nov 07 2011, 22:16

hi there
yes the timing is still out but stripping electrics down as spark is poor weak
and will set it up more to the letter than it was before as it was a sod to start and popping and farting along
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restoration underway WX11

Post by kevjhnsn on Mon Nov 14 2011, 22:03

Re: VILLIERS WX11
Skankin_giant on Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:06 pm

Has the link be removed? cant see where it was before.

anyway, I dont think this one has the bronze head, cant really see from that angle, looks like a earlier headless model, so dont think there is anymore brass on the engine, I think WX11 look pants working clothes, think they are like stuarts need to be shown at there best.
Give the flywheel a good rock side to side and up and down, these suffer with big end trouble, you would hear it clunking, and there might be a fair amount of float, be handy to get the drive belt removed as this might be keeping things tight.


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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn on Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:26 pm

hi there steve

link been removed for forum relations purpose by the manament

thanks for the heads up on that bearings thing
what are they crappy billet metal
or rollers/ball bearings
what is the correct air filter for wx11 ??
should i paint it pink like mikes wd2 LOL LOL LOL
I WAS THINKING A MAROON OR a apple/ grass green depending on castings condition
do they us much juice of a weekend????
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Re: VILLIERS WX11
Skankin_giant on Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:03 pm

Phosphor bronze small end, roller mains and big end.

If you look at the pictures of the 2 I posted they both have to the correct filter, can be a pain to find.
Most would have been Villiers Green, which is a fairly lightish green, this sort of colour, this one has a rotator filter fitted.



Mine is Maroon as that was the colour it was when we bought it.

Fuel, mine would use a gallon over a weekend, deepening how you run it, they can use more.

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Re: VILLIERS WX11
Skankin_giant on Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:16 pm

I made a guide to timing up a WX11, also shows how a knocking big end sounds on a running one of these, if you see it running put a bit of load on the flywheel and this will also reveal a knock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY-CFyTKFqU



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Re: VILLIERS WX11
Skankin_giant on Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:43 pm

The hopper cooled ones weigh 142lbs

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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:00 am

Skankin_giant wrote:
The hopper cooled ones weigh 142lbs

Cheers Steve


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thanks for that info your a star
soon be collecting her and be finding out whats what with her
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Re: VILLIERS WX11
Skankin_giant on Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Hopper cooled WX11 is just over 24” high, by 16 1/2” at the 2 base mounting points, by 15’ across the crank shaft, will be longer with the pulley though.

Details are in the WX11 PDF I sent you.

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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:23 pm

hi there
read all the leaflet but never came across the measurments or i missed it twice
there is a nother file i cant open though its the bottom file,
been busy for a hour or so since start of writing this
and ive done loaded pdf reader now
and yes you have sent me all ive asked for in my last messages
cheers steve THE FILE I HADNT OPENED PDF IS a fantastic peice of litriture
top man to you steve
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fuel tank resoldered
kevjhnsn Yesterday at 3:39 pm

hi there
removed tank and had to stripe back to bare metal as tin worm is on a runner
got half a pound of rust from inside the tank as on foto in plastic bag
resoldered all the curved top of the tank as split open over the years or had a bang at some time in the past
tank is now airtight as when made again 80-90 years ago


ive also completly removed all electrics and given them a clean and coat of paint were needed
to preserve for as long as poss
could be doing with a ingition coil as she is getting low on output on the high tension side
if anyone has or knows to one
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Re: VILLIERS WX11
stationary stu Yesterday at 3:48 pm

Looks as if you done a good job cleaning and repairing the tank Kev, do you put sealer in or not? When I got the WD8 it was full of rust so I used sealer on it seems to have done a good job but not yet tried it, but won't be long as I'm getting there slowly and I've even found the carb parts I lost

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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn Yesterday at 5:18 pm

stationary stu wrote:
Looks as if you done a good job cleaning and repairing the tank Kev, do you put sealer in or not? When I got the WD8 it was full of rust so I used sealer on it seems to have done a good job but not yet tried it, but won't be long as I'm getting there slowly and I've even found the carb parts I lost

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hi stu
only been about 3 months since you said to me youd lost them in the house some were lol
not tryed the tank sealers as of yet
i use isopon tank filler works fine for me and add old sump oil filtered though toilet paper lol to the tank for as long as tank not needed
to slow the rust down
i bought a villiers geny set when i was about 15-17 yrs old from a stationary auction meatons i think it was and the tank had been sealed with that tank seal whent back to it 2-3 yrs later to fire it up and the tank seal had desolved to the bottom and down to the carb full to the top with
the rubbery waxy stuff
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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn Yesterday at 6:18 pm

here are the originay old ht lead could all be original but who nows
stripped and cleaned up and painted were needed
just hope they work again
only stripped as spark was orange or pink
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Re: VILLIERS WX11
kevjhnsn Today at 2:54 am

fuel tank and the electrics remounted to engine for a test run
couldnt get it to spark for hours went for tea came out with fresh eyes and noticed the points cam arm was slightly twisted
and the timing mark ont the flywheel is 28*degres before TDC and not TDC as it should be LOL
streighed and as follows for 2 hrs with a back fire or miss
patted mesself on the back
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WX11 WAH or is she a WX11 LZHA

Post by kevjhnsn on Mon Nov 14 2011, 22:06

wx11 wah or is she LZHA ????
kevjhnsn Today at 4:39 am

ive been informed buy the man with the villiers dating info
that mine is a WX11 LZHA with replacment alloy bottom end casting of his memory from 1000 rally photos he has
so will wait and see the offical outcome as soon as its delivered to me in the next weeks or so ??
CANT WAIT TO FIND THE HISTORY OF THIS ONE
pevious owner says im the first owner outside of the factory county to own her
ALSO HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT INFO TO LOL
TO BE CONTINUED
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Sounds like you may have a rare one Kev, fingers crossed.

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 14 2011, 22:14



Sounds like you may have a rare one Kev, fingers crossed.




Dont think any wx11 is rare (well maybe the marine) the LZ is less common due to the short production run, but still a fair few around, the LZHA may been less common due to the fact people are put off by the higher oil to fuel ratio.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Mon Nov 14 2011, 22:19

IVE MANAGED TO REMOVE THE COLLAR FROM THE CARB
AND THE AIRFILTER I FOUND AT THE BACK OF MY SHED FITS THREADS ARE CORRECT ON IT TO for the carb
whats it for old as hevy gauge metal for a filter
once was cromed to with a brass removable filter for cleaning





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Re: villiers wx11 collected and home

Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Nov 19 2011, 13:12

hi there
i have just got a bargain of ebay
i needed the flywheel cover and the last on went for nearly £30 and was a reproduction one you can buy for 24 quid
so me is happy with this one

Sell one like this
VILLIERS WX11 / WX2 ETC MAGNETO COVER STATIONARY ENGINE
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Item condition: Used
Sale date: 18 Nov, 201120:11:46 GMT
Bid history:
6 bids
Winning bid: £7.10



and any help with the airfilter as in above post would be great
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Post by stationary stu on Sun Nov 20 2011, 11:14

Nice one Kev it's good to pick up a bargin every now and then. But the prices of spares on ebay are unreal at times but if your desperate you have to pay the price, myself I tend just to keep looking till one comes along at a better price.
The seller Bacon butty has alot of stuff to sell as he seems to be on quite often, and some of his prices ain't to bad.
I missed out on a complete pump set up last week, it was just a Stuart pump but it had all the pipe work and an old milk churn as a tank went for £46 and I had a glitch with the internet and could get on to do a last second bid to steal it. Crying or Very sad The pump alone was worth that and it wasn't that far away and I know the seller, he has another small Lister pump on now so I'll get in a bit soon with my bid this time.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Feb 24 2012, 01:57

will ive fitted the proper villiers air filter, exhurst down pipe and the coil had arrived a few days back so that has also been fitted
with a great big gap jumping spark and tipped a bit of fuel in the itake gave it a pull and away she whent
instead of the 5-10 mins of faffing and pulling like before whoop whoop happy with it now
just have to get it out and try it when ive swapped some parts onto the other wx11 LZH and see if its any good to start spending on
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Post by stationary stu on Fri Feb 24 2012, 11:06

That's get news Kev, bet you breathed a bit of relief when she fired and found that the coil was not a waste of money. Keep us posted on what you plan to do next.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Feb 24 2012, 20:22

well for £50 quid it had better of worked ,or else there would of be
en a murder in a town far from me lol
working most of weekend again so sunday early eve may be the time for a fire up
or photos of it running lol
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Post by stationary stu on Sat Feb 25 2012, 12:03

Looking forward to seeing it all up and running Kev.

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