yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
I forgot about the mag, hope you can sort it and it doesn't need to go away for repair.
Stu.
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
stationary stu wrote:I forgot about the mag, hope you can sort it and it doesn't need to go away for repair.
Stu.
I hope so too but not sure how i am going to find out what thread the mag pickup holes are ....
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Some good news i held the pickup in with mt thump while spinning over with other hand , and we have a nice blue spark All the moths in the kitchen cupboard has done it good then . considering it was on the engine in a cold wet shed its not too bad .
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
matt86 wrote:Some good news i held the pickup in with mt thump while spinning over with other hand , and we have a nice blue spark All the moths in the kitchen cupboard has done it good then . considering it was on the engine in a cold wet shed its not too bad .
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Wish I had moths that can repair mags.
Great news the mags ok so no more excuses about getting it finished.
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great moths ain't they
nope not at all stu, hopefully il get the carb on later, as I've sourced a replacement bottom for a solex. get that together later, then just order a few odd bits, thinking with the screws il just order the hole range of ba screws that way il find some that fits
Just hope the shellac on the armature is ok, common problem that it can melt and seize up the mag after been run since been sat for a few years.
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nope not at all stu, hopefully il get the carb on later, as I've sourced a replacement bottom for a solex. get that together later, then just order a few odd bits, thinking with the screws il just order the hole range of ba screws that way il find some that fits
Just hope the shellac on the armature is ok, common problem that it can melt and seize up the mag after been run since been sat for a few years.
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Matt, it's handy to get a stock of BA screws but try and get long ones then they can be cut down as needed.
I hope the mags is ok once you get it going, it would be a shame if it failed once you had it all up and running.
Stu.
I hope the mags is ok once you get it going, it would be a shame if it failed once you had it all up and running.
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stu, there a company that sells cheese head screws in packs of ten same size for £1.60 each, so il get a few packs from 0ba to 8ba I think.
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
I bought the box of mixed BA screws and nuts, had it years now it includes cheese and counter sunk screws and nuts to fit. Think it cost about £30 when I bought it, the only set I can see on ebay is £70 and I thought I'd payed to much for mine but I needed some at the time.
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That's why I don't want to buy a selection box. the more odd and scarce threads are the more responsive it gets
Try g w fasteners, they have a good range of odd threads that you can't get from your local fastener shop. 2 places on Swindon neither of them even stock unc or unf
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Try g w fasteners, they have a good range of odd threads that you can't get from your local fastener shop. 2 places on Swindon neither of them even stock unc or unf
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Matt,
Got your measurements, could only get to my pumping set engine. Its 25mm from flywheel edge to governor side cover, but I suspect I have allowed a little more on my other engines as the pumpset flywheel has to be clear of the pump gearing. I would set it to 25mm, see how it goes with getting the cover off, and if its still tight try 30mm.
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Got your measurements, could only get to my pumping set engine. Its 25mm from flywheel edge to governor side cover, but I suspect I have allowed a little more on my other engines as the pumpset flywheel has to be clear of the pump gearing. I would set it to 25mm, see how it goes with getting the cover off, and if its still tight try 30mm.
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Cheers Dave, I will do that next time I do a bit, seems odd why there is nit a spacer of some kind, never known a engine to much of a gap behind the flywheel, well ones I have worked on... Don't expect there many engines that you need access behind flywheel anyway.
just my thoughts, il set it to 30mm and be on the safe side.
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just my thoughts, il set it to 30mm and be on the safe side.
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a little update as i bet stu is itching for me to get her running .
well got some screws for the mag pick up and that all on and together and sparking
Got the carb and fuel lines all connected and adapted to fit , need to test if it leaks as not tried it yet . Just done a temporary exhaust pipe for now , the flange with some 1" bsp pipe welded to it wonder if it be loud .....
but i did forget that my engines is a "PAL" rather than the normal "PA" wonder what difference that makes .... and that plate is nicley on the engine now with some period matching screws .
All need to do is make a felt seal for the mag drive hole once the felt gets here and fit guvnor spring and hook and time it up and fit the crank pin into the handle the right way .
Oh and move the flywheel back to a better position , and clean and paint it when the weather is better .
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well got some screws for the mag pick up and that all on and together and sparking
Got the carb and fuel lines all connected and adapted to fit , need to test if it leaks as not tried it yet . Just done a temporary exhaust pipe for now , the flange with some 1" bsp pipe welded to it wonder if it be loud .....
but i did forget that my engines is a "PAL" rather than the normal "PA" wonder what difference that makes .... and that plate is nicley on the engine now with some period matching screws .
All need to do is make a felt seal for the mag drive hole once the felt gets here and fit guvnor spring and hook and time it up and fit the crank pin into the handle the right way .
Oh and move the flywheel back to a better position , and clean and paint it when the weather is better .
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PAL is a low speed engine, think my one is as well, but i cant remember
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
cheers matt , bet your looking at this one in discuss and its been dulexed
think this may be one of the last engines i paint for a while , its nearlly taken a year to do it so far
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think this may be one of the last engines i paint for a while , its nearlly taken a year to do it so far
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Yes Matt I'm waiting patently for the big day when you crank her over.
You've been on with this a year I still win I was on 18 months with my WD8 and it's still not running right but I do have another mag for it, so fingers crossed that should cure the problem.
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You've been on with this a year I still win I was on 18 months with my WD8 and it's still not running right but I do have another mag for it, so fingers crossed that should cure the problem.
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see if i can beat you there i could drop everything and put a sheet over it ..... I think not !
Im itching to get it going stu but i cant do anything at the moment , waiting for parts .
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Im itching to get it going stu but i cant do anything at the moment , waiting for parts .
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That's the spirit Matt, get er done.
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The parts have turned up today , while i was out gallivanting in dorset , so tomorow i can get it finished if nothing else crops up for me to do
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
couldn't resist a little tinker tonight so i got the mag on and timed up and its not all good ... the mag has got a spark but not a verry big one when its cranked over by hand
So this project has come to a stop and put on the back burner , and il get the mag send off when i can spare the cash getting it done , as got a a ignitor away at the moment and got a Lucus rs1 that needs a new coil which is around £80 . So that get done in next few months hopefully before may ish .
Oh well i got a Fairbanks to get on with soon , and a dairy display that needs to be sorted oh and a pump that needs plumbong up and testing and a small frame made for that .
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So this project has come to a stop and put on the back burner , and il get the mag send off when i can spare the cash getting it done , as got a a ignitor away at the moment and got a Lucus rs1 that needs a new coil which is around £80 . So that get done in next few months hopefully before may ish .
Oh well i got a Fairbanks to get on with soon , and a dairy display that needs to be sorted oh and a pump that needs plumbong up and testing and a small frame made for that .
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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
Sorry to hear the mags not to good after all, will it defiantly not run the way it is, if everything is set up correct it might just coff into life.
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Hi Matt,
Typical Lucas N1.....! If you are even getting a small spark, try reducing the plug gap down, you might just get enough to get the engine running even for a short test run. Definitely worth getting your mag rewound when you can, they are a good mag when sorted out but can be problematic. Hope you get something sorted out. Cheers Dave
Typical Lucas N1.....! If you are even getting a small spark, try reducing the plug gap down, you might just get enough to get the engine running even for a short test run. Definitely worth getting your mag rewound when you can, they are a good mag when sorted out but can be problematic. Hope you get something sorted out. Cheers Dave
Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .
It doesnt spark all the time , and when does is around 5mm spark , I will try closing the plug gap a touch
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