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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .

Post by JONESEY on Thu Dec 15 2011, 17:17

No they normally like to work from the crank measherments them self they talk in measherments I have never herd of Laughing Laughing Laughing
There used to be a great chap in chiseldon he,s retired now but used to work from home .
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Post by matt86 on Thu Dec 15 2011, 17:22

I rhink i have sussed this out spoken to a mate of mine and he said in end of jan ish we can have a go making some and he will show me what to do and i can make them myself . I just have to get the material myself Smile

Also he will help me make the big end bearing too .

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Post by JONESEY on Thu Dec 15 2011, 22:57

Sorted that sounds great nothing better than doing it yourself, when its running like a clock you can stand back and say I restored that Smile Smile
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Post by stationary stu on Fri Dec 16 2011, 10:16

Good luck Matt and keep us updated on your latest skill, sounds interesting.

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Re: yet another rusty lump ! Fowler 1pa restoration .

Post by matt86 on Sat Dec 17 2011, 19:22

been spending a while un sticking the piston rings on the piston today , been submerging it in diesel and then applying some heat from propane torch , then more soaking a bit of taping then more heat etc etc .

Finally freed the rings off , with no damage at all Very Happy so hopefully will not need to get any new rings ..



Did notice that in the bottom grove there is 2 rings in there ... Rolling Eyes what is this about a bodge or what ???

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Post by JONESEY on Sat Dec 17 2011, 19:45

No thats your oil ring be carefull taking them off the piston if your intending to use them again
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Post by hob on Sat Dec 17 2011, 19:53

2 rings? or 1 ring with a step in it?

the end gap in the rings looks very wide compared to the ones in my petter

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Post by matt86 on Sat Dec 17 2011, 20:12

JONESEY wrote:No thats your oil ring be carefull taking them off the piston if your intending to use them again
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Chris i am re using the rings again , I have a pair of piston ring pliers that do just the job at removing them , lent them to mike he was so impressed he had to buy a set lol! lol!

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Post by JONESEY on Sat Dec 17 2011, 20:49

Ah I always use bits of plastic card, as long as you get them off in one thats al that matters
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Post by matt86 on Sat Dec 17 2011, 20:55

JONESEY wrote:Ah I always use bits of plastic card, as long as you get them off in one thats al that matters
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Chris i have has too many insodents with 2 flat screwdrivers that did not plan out well Embarassed

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Post by JONESEY on Sat Dec 17 2011, 23:21

We all learn by are mistakes, it's good in away becouse you learn how to do things right. At the time you dont think like that Laughing Laughing .
I have different tools in my tool box which I have made over the years screw drivers with bits ground out, spanners ground down to fit into places.
I dont think we will ever stop learning.
Getting back to the topic The fowler dont look like its had much hard work in its life.
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Post by matt86 on Sat Dec 17 2011, 23:52

The bore is clean , just a bit of a hone and should be ok ... should be quite a easy restoration , No point me even start to think on cleaning the metal up to paint it untill the weather gets a bit warmer . But hopefully will make this one a full strip down and repaint .. that what the plans are .

Be good once its done as you dont see many of them .

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Post by matt86 on Fri Feb 10 2012, 21:43

A bit of a update i have finally started to do a bit of work on the fowler ....

started to clean up and paint some parts in some red oxide





what is your opinion on rust pits on tinwork .... ?

do i skim with some filler or do i leave .... some people says adds character etc ....#



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Post by Guest on Fri Feb 10 2012, 22:00

Leave them proves its done some work.

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Post by mike d on Fri Feb 10 2012, 22:30

matt..nice to see your making progress..keep it up mate....did you ask your mate if hes selling me an engine??????
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Post by matt86 on Fri Feb 10 2012, 22:51

havent seen him in a while mate we both been busy .

oh i like your answerphone message lol

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Post by mike d on Fri Feb 10 2012, 23:10

matt86_wd2 wrote:haven't seen him in a while mate we both been busy .

oh i like your answerphone message lol

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ok Matt,keep me in mind when you do mate...thanks again reed timber constructions..lol.lol..oh yes your sacked...
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Post by matt86 on Fri Feb 10 2012, 23:19

sacked ..... i didnt even know i was hired lol

i assume your talking about darren ? he hasn't got much for sale at the moment unless you want over 30 d types lol

i will get some more painting done tomorrow once ive gone and got some more white spirit and a few more paint brushes and wet and dry . I do insist on having decent brushes when doing my engines as i have done it so many times with cheap brushes and end up having hairs in the paint ..... grrr But the best brush is a well used brush . i better get using them then , and dont forget to clean them after lol! lol!

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Post by JONESEY on Fri Feb 10 2012, 23:31

Looking good Matt, I use varnish or wood care brushes they are longer and finer hair Smile
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Post by mike d on Fri Feb 10 2012, 23:33

matt86_wd2 wrote:sacked ..... i didn't even know i was hired lol

i assume your talking about Darren ? he hasn't got much for sale at the moment unless you want over 30 d types lol

i will get some more painting done tomorrow once ive gone and got some more white spirit and a few more paint brushes and wet and dry . I do insist on having decent brushes when doing my engines as i have done it so many times with cheap brushes and end up having hairs in the paint ..... grrr But the best brush is a well used brush . i better get using them then , and don't forget to clean them after lol! lol!

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Matt i couldn't agree more mate..keep us posted on the progress....
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Post by Diddy on Fri Feb 10 2012, 23:56

keep up the good work matt.i tend to use harris brushs when the pocket can aford them.i will put some more pics up of my engine soon.

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Post by matt86 on Sat Feb 11 2012, 00:12

Diddy wrote:keep up the good work matt.i tend to use harris brushs when the pocket can aford them.i will put some more pics up of my engine soon.

exactlly what i use dave , and yes there not cheap but for what they cost i allways clean them out well or leave in a jar of white spirit for a few days if i will using again in the next few days . if leave too long the brush goes all gunky is the best way to explain it Laughing

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Post by matt86 on Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:34

Well a little update on the fowler ... i have been cleaning up parts and painting , rubbing down panting etc .

so alot is not so rusty no more . the only rusty part left is the block . But thats another issue with having a bent crankshaft ... but one should be on transit as we speak !

here is what the final paint will look like , that is 3 coats of primer and 3 top coats . Has been rubbed down in between all coats with the top cats needed to leave at least a 3 days before doing it lightly .



Sends of a good shine , but once the engine is all together and painted you will see what i mean , at moment light is a bit dim .

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Post by kevjhnsn on Mon Feb 27 2012, 22:50

looking good keep it up
and shinning well so far
ive PM ed you about fowler and a question from me
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Post by matt86 on Mon Feb 27 2012, 23:02

kevjhnsn wrote:looking good keep it up
and shinning well so far
ive PM ed you about fowler and a question from me
kev

and you have a reply kev .....

Im taking my time with this engine as want it to be a show winner Wink

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