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Post by bluewater1150 on Wed Feb 08 2012, 18:21

Hi, does anyone know of a firm, or local engineer, who can cut a keyway into the hub of a belt pulley.
From the advice I'd been given - I undertstand that this job needs to be done 'right'.
I live in the NE of England.

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Post by mike d on Thu Feb 09 2012, 19:08

good luck with that Elliot..sounds very technical indeed...what you using it for..?????
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Post by bluewater1150 on Thu Feb 09 2012, 19:40

Hi MIke

I've got the chance of a 8" diameter pulley that fits the Lister, but with no keyway. As I intend to drive a saw bench with this belt pulley, I need to get a keyway properly cut into the hub.
I'll keep looking for a pulley that's precut with a keyway - but in the meantime thought I'd see if there were any locals or firms that could help out.
I'm seeing an local engineer tomorrow - fingers crossed he has a key slot cutter, or knows someone who does.

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Post by mike d on Fri Feb 10 2012, 12:48

hi Elliot..
i see you method now,but it seems to be a lot of work for a pulley though...
your get this one done a find the rite one..
im thinking that its not going to be an easy or cheap job to do what you want to do????
keep us posted on the progress of it..good luck with it,just make sure theres no way it will come off while its running...
regards,mike..

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Post by bencam43 on Fri Feb 10 2012, 19:48

Hi Elliot, James H WOOD Engineers, Tweedmouth, Berwick on Tweed, will do the job for you. I am getting one done next week, they might do it while you wait If you want anymore info just ask . Bill.

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Post by bluewater1150 on Fri Feb 10 2012, 21:51

bencam43 wrote:Hi Elliot, James H WOOD Engineers, Tweedmouth, Berwick on Tweed, will do the job for you. I am getting one done next week, they might do it while you wait If you want anymore info just ask . Bill.

Hi Bill

I'm going up to Eyemouth towards the end of next week, so that would work in perfectly.

Thanks a lot for that.

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Post by Capstan on Thu Feb 16 2012, 13:07

You can always cut it with a keyway chisel and a club hammer.
Saw it done in one of those war information films when I was an apprentice.

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Post by mike d on Thu Feb 16 2012, 13:40

i guess that was all they had back in those days,sounds like you need a very large hammer to do that job along with a very sharp chisel...
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Post by Capstan on Thu Feb 16 2012, 13:53

I'll bet if you closely at some old shafts you will see signs of them having been cut by hand.
It didn't take long. They were good at it.
If you come across an old cold chisel with a squashed diamond at the end, that's what it's for.
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Post by mike d on Thu Feb 16 2012, 15:12

thanks for the info Phil,i will keep an eye out for one when im out and about...
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Post by ian webb on Sun Feb 19 2012, 20:35

Elliot,
the correct pulley for a lister A

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STATIONARY-ENGINE-BELT-PULLEY-/220956803122?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item33720d4032


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Post by bluewater1150 on Sat Feb 25 2012, 20:54

ian webb wrote:Elliot,
the correct pulley for a lister A

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STATIONARY-ENGINE-BELT-PULLEY-/220956803122?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item33720d4032


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Missed winning the pulley - annoying, as only by pennies....

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Post by mike d on Mon Feb 27 2012, 00:08

Elliot its always the same on there..ive been out bid by 1p in the past...quite how that works i don't know
so what i do now is bid what i want to pay for it and leave it,if i win then that's fine,but if i don't well tuff
it always seems that when you want something you can never find it...once you have one you will find lots more.lol.lol..
keep looking and your fine one,or one of us will find one for you...im still looking for you....
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Post by bluewater1150 on Mon Feb 27 2012, 08:23

mike d wrote:Elliot its always the same on there..ive been out bid by 1p in the past...quite how that works i don't know
so what i do now is bid what i want to pay for it and leave it,if i win then that's fine,but if i don't well tuff
it always seems that when you want something you can never find it...once you have one you will find lots more.lol.lol..
keep looking and your fine one,or one of us will find one for you...im still looking for you....
mike...

Mike

Your so right - and I must admit I didn't realise that the original 6" x 6" pulley did bolt onto the flywheel - I thought they all went on the shaft and were held in place by a keysteel and grub screw/bolt. So I can now see why, if you fit 'another type' and the pulley/slot is not 100% correct, and has a load, how damage could be done to the main crankshaft.
So yes, eyes peeled for a 3 x bolt connection pulley.

Cheers
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Post by stationary stu on Mon Feb 27 2012, 10:52

When you never replyed and I knew you had gone away for a while I did bid on it Elliot for you but I was out bid straight away and didn't want to go wild as I didn't know if you'd found one or not. There was also some others I bid on but outbid on them also, keep looking one will turn up, and the rallies will be starting soon so that gives you more places for people to look. I've just found out that there's a sale on at Durham every month so I'm going to try and have a look over see if theres much there or not, might find one there fingers crossed.

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Post by bluewater1150 on Mon Feb 27 2012, 12:01

stationary stu wrote:When you never replyed and I knew you had gone away for a while I did bid on it Elliot for you but I was out bid straight away and didn't want to go wild as I didn't know if you'd found one or not. There was also some others I bid on but outbid on them also, keep looking one will turn up, and the rallies will be starting soon so that gives you more places for people to look. I've just found out that there's a sale on at Durham every month so I'm going to try and have a look over see if theres much there or not, might find one there fingers crossed.

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Hi Stu

And thanks for keeping an eye open for me, yes I was away for 5 days. I found lots of agricultural goodies - but all slightly large! Full sized rotavators, hay spinners, old single and double blade ploughs - still it was fun routing around in the barn corners for smaller stuff. Got some cast wheels 'Elders' of Berwick - but 1/6th of them has been burried in the damp soil for a year or two - so not in great condition.

I think I'd prefer to find one of those baked beans shaped - flywheel 3 bolt fixing belt pulleys, rather than the shaft type. Ian's good advice is still rigning in my ears.
Put a load on the pulley and you'll possibly get shaft damage, unless it all keyed 100% right. The cutting of the keyway is not cheap (£30+) ontop of the price of a pulley - it quickly starts to become silly. So the flywheel attachment pulley makes a lot of sense.

Thanks for also keeping an eye open for me.

Cheers
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Post by mike d on Mon Feb 27 2012, 13:14

will definitely keep my eyes open for you Elliot..
will let you know if i have any joy in finding one..

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Post by hob on Fri Mar 02 2012, 11:15

is this one any good Question

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lister-B-engine-pully-/270926641452?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item3f147c792c

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Post by bluewater1150 on Fri Mar 02 2012, 16:01

hob wrote:is this one any good Question

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lister-B-engine-pully-/270926641452?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item3f147c792c

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The very beast - thanks a lot.

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Post by hob on Fri Mar 02 2012, 17:35

that is for a Lister B................. don't know if it will fit a Lister A ??

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Post by bluewater1150 on Fri Mar 02 2012, 17:46

Hob

I've e-mailed the seller to ask for the 3 x flywheel bolt measurements

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Post by ian webb on Sat Mar 03 2012, 14:59

Elliot, if the measurements of the bolts come back ok it looks like youve cracked it,
ask him to send it by Hermes, myself and mike use them a lot for smaller stuff they will only carry upto a certain weight, ive sent lots of pulleys wheels etc through them very reliable and cheap i reckon about a fiver to send that, you can go on Hermes website type in your postcode weight and collection address and will give you price there and then well worth a look if it saves money and they will collect from his door no need to go to post office,
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Post by bluewater1150 on Sun Mar 04 2012, 08:20

Hi Ian

Thanks for the Hermes recommendation. I've only used them only once - with no complaints. Your read about people having horror stories with Hermes, but as I've had a few of them with the Post Office !! - I remain open minded until convinced otherwise.

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