Pillar Drill Tart Up :)
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Pillar Drill Tart Up :)
As most of you know I bought a pillar drill at the auction at Parbeck on Sat AM. Well today I started pulling it apart for painting, then got a bit carried away lol
Been struggling a bit to figure out who the maker is, may have narrowed it down to Bradson or Wolf with a possibility of it being a Union.
Also be tarting up the fuel can I bought as well, wife has a very steady hand and a good artist so she is going to paint the detail on.
By the way who can guess who has a load of mid brunswick green left over
Been struggling a bit to figure out who the maker is, may have narrowed it down to Bradson or Wolf with a possibility of it being a Union.
Also be tarting up the fuel can I bought as well, wife has a very steady hand and a good artist so she is going to paint the detail on.
By the way who can guess who has a load of mid brunswick green left over
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its a union
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i have one too see here pages 3 to 5
http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t3372p30-my-first-engine
http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t3372p30-my-first-engine
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hob wrote:i have one too see here pages 3 to 5
http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t3372p30-my-first-engine
looked at that hob, but its quite different ?
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blackvanman wrote:
looked at that hob, but its quite different ?
i can see where you are coming from, mine has the words Union and Made in England prominently displayed on it. the table where the vice goes is different, working in a small engineering factory in the 1960's it was not hard to see where copies of these things were made ..............patents were not so vigorously enforced in those days.
i'm guessing yours is a "copy" of a union drill .........................the top casting looks almost identical where the gears go.............if there are no makers names on the castings its almost certainly a "copy"
and yes i am old enough to be working in the 60's
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hob wrote:blackvanman wrote:
looked at that hob, but its quite different ?
i can see where you are coming from, mine has the words Union and Made in England prominently displayed on it. the table where the vice goes is different, working in a small engineering factory in the 1960's it was not hard to see where copies of these things were made ..............patents were not so vigorously enforced in those days.
i'm guessing yours is a "copy" of a union drill .........................the top casting looks almost identical where the gears go.............if there are no makers names on the castings its almost certainly a "copy"
and yes i am old enough to be working in the 60's
lol, good for a giggle, I do know it is supposed to be Handrollic, but looking around there appears to be a 2 speed version, this realy made I laugh, mine would have had a variable speed, all dependent on how fast you wound the bugger
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union made a 2 speed one too ...............restoration of one here
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/pillar-drill-restoration-t45396.html
chicken and mushroom Pot Noodle is not a standard rebuilding requirement
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/pillar-drill-restoration-t45396.html
chicken and mushroom Pot Noodle is not a standard rebuilding requirement
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hob wrote:union made a 2 speed one too ...............restoration of one here
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/pillar-drill-restoration-t45396.html
chicken and mushroom Pot Noodle is not a standard rebuilding requirement
its all the better with a laugh
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got bored again this morning lol
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Nice job mate cleaned up a treat, you putting it on a base unit
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Abes wrote:Nice job mate cleaned up a treat, you putting it on a base unit
bugger, lol, will have to wait untill I get bored again........................
................. see photo's tomorrow probably
Did I say I payed £2 for it?
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Looking good, nice job you've done. Have you sorted out about belting it to your engine yet?
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stationary stu wrote:Looking good, nice job you've done. Have you sorted out about belting it to your engine yet?
Stu.
I have my eye on a nice pulley Stu, then I'll get a belt sorted, hoping to have it running for wallop in a weeks time
The big question will be where to get a belt long enough, places I normaly use round here mostly only stock vehicle belts at set sizes lol
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Just answered that one myself lol
http://www.stationaryengineparts.com/V-Belts-A-profile-12.7x8.html
but on my travels have also found this very usefull tool:
http://www.baumhydraulics.com/calculators/belt_length.htm
http://www.stationaryengineparts.com/V-Belts-A-profile-12.7x8.html
but on my travels have also found this very usefull tool:
http://www.baumhydraulics.com/calculators/belt_length.htm
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blackvanman wrote:stationary stu wrote:Looking good, nice job you've done. Have you sorted out about belting it to your engine yet?
Stu.
I have my eye on a nice pulley Stu, then I'll get a belt sorted, hoping to have it running for wallop in a weeks time
The big question will be where to get a belt long enough, places I normaly use round here mostly only stock vehicle belts at set sizes lol
have you considered the running speed? remember its designed to run at the speed a man can turn the handle, there are no bearings or bushes in there. my Petter runs at about 800 rpm and i found it difficult to slow it down enough without a lay-shaft to alter the ratio, which is why mine is still just a static display for now
i bought mine a lay-shaft a few weeks back but not had time to play yet, my plan was to run it at about 100 rpm which is a ratio of 8 to 1
there is a speed calculator here
http://www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html
mine had an outing today, just to stand and look pretty
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Yes, I had lol the A1 is currently running at around 650 rpm with a 5" pulley, I intend fitting a 10" pulley to the drill bringing it down to around 325 rpm the gears on the drill bring it up to around 520 which is lower than the slowest speed of my electric pillar drill in the workshop.
This is going to be a suck it and see situation, I know its going to be noisey before I even start lol these drills always were just being wound handrolicly lol. Aware of no bearings, will see what happens but will probably source an induction drive unit for it to slow it right down
This is going to be a suck it and see situation, I know its going to be noisey before I even start lol these drills always were just being wound handrolicly lol. Aware of no bearings, will see what happens but will probably source an induction drive unit for it to slow it right down
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There was someone trying to sell a similar drill on Ebay for £180, they kept dropping the price the last was £80 (I think) and still no takers hmmm wonder why
Great site for sorting out gear ratios, thanks for sharing Neville.
Stu.
Great site for sorting out gear ratios, thanks for sharing Neville.
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Drill looks very nice lovely job youve made of it well done, fuel can also, keep up the good work,
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ian webb wrote:Drill looks very nice lovely job youve made of it well done, fuel can also, keep up the good work,
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Cheers Ian,
10" pulley on its way, and have ordered a 95" belt which gives me 3' between the engine and drill pulley centers, will see what happens next lol
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bugger I got bored again (not bored enough to make a stand though )
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Shame you didn't live closer I've plenty of things you could do if you were bored
Your going to have quite a large display unless someone hides the paint brush
Nice work
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Your going to have quite a large display unless someone hides the paint brush
Nice work
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stationary stu wrote:Shame you didn't live closer I've plenty of things you could do if you were bored
Your going to have quite a large display unless someone hides the paint brush
Nice work
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lol
yes it is getting that way, I do have something else up my sleeve as well, something quite special with any luck (actualy 2 things lol) but will be for next year
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blackvanman wrote: lol yes it is getting that way, I do have something else up my sleeve as well, something quite special with any luck (actualy 2 things lol) but will be for next year
I have a couple of things up my sleeve there called arms
Now you've got me interested but I bet your not going to say
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stationary stu wrote:blackvanman wrote: lol yes it is getting that way, I do have something else up my sleeve as well, something quite special with any luck (actualy 2 things lol) but will be for next year
I have a couple of things up my sleeve there called arms
Now you've got me interested but I bet your not going to say
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nope lol
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