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Post by grizman23 on Thu Oct 25 2012, 06:14

I have just acquired a Petter A2 for my first ever project, can anyone tell me where I can find her history and any advice on restoring her to a running state.
I have cleaned her plate and found she is No:500974
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Re: Petter A2

Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Oct 26 2012, 00:53

hi there just recheck you model speck A2 ,
has it a twin fuel tank or water cooling system
the serial number leads to this as follows
A W Series II Air - Water cooled 1½ to 5hp Petrol/TVO wico/wipac Magneto serial numbers from 500000 to 533761 year 1945 - 1947
does it look anythink like this or ??

or more like this one

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Fri Oct 26 2012, 05:48

Looks similar , mine looks more like an A1 but the plate says A2 ?
Air cooled with joined in and out valve casting. Very Happy

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Fri Oct 26 2012, 06:00

Here are a couple of pics (if I get this right)


This is how she was when I first saw her. Shocked

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Re: Petter A2

Post by hob on Fri Oct 26 2012, 09:51

its an A1 the A2 is a two cylinder engine

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Re: Petter A2

Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Oct 26 2012, 13:52

its looking like from the details and pics your engine is a bitsa engine mate
or at least the id plate is wrong Question Question
all in all from the pics its a petrol petter a1
if you need a manual pm me your email adress
i do also have a few bits and pieces for petter a1s also
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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Sat Oct 27 2012, 07:16

Thanks for the id Kev
I was beginning to get a bit confuzzed about her pedigree Laughing
You are correct about the manual (one is needed)
I would pm you but I am still under the 7 day rule for a new member. Crying or Very sad
As you all seem top notch guys and gals on here I thought about posting it here ,but then again.....
Thanks
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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Sun Oct 28 2012, 17:59

Thanks hob for the id of my engine. Smile

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Re: Petter A2

Post by hob on Sun Oct 28 2012, 18:37

grizman23 wrote:Thanks hob for the id of my engine. Smile

my first engine was an A1 which needed a total rebuild, the layout is a bit different on yours but you may find it useful to read.

http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t3372-my-first-engine

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:12

Thanks I will have a look.
As you can see mine is missing a few parts, one being the pulley, do you know if they are easy to get hold of. Question
A starting handle is my next big thing if I can find the right one. Very Happy
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Re: Petter A2

Post by blackvanman on Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:26

grizman23 wrote:Thanks I will have a look.
As you can see mine is missing a few parts, one being the pulley, do you know if they are easy to get hold of. Question
A starting handle is my next big thing if I can find the right one. Very Happy
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Peter A1 shafts are 1 1/2" if that helps, and this be the handle you require Smile
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/petter-a1-starting-handle-/221145967008?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item337d53a9a0

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Re: Petter A2

Post by blackvanman on Sun Oct 28 2012, 21:46

and a flat belt pulley:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flat-Pulley-8-by-1-5-inch-Flat-Belt-Pulley-Lister-D-Stationary-Engine-etc-/251077065048?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item3a755bf958

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Mon Oct 29 2012, 07:05

Thanks blackvanman
Iwill go and have a look at them and see what I can do.
Griz Smile

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Re: Petter A2

Post by stationary stu on Mon Oct 29 2012, 11:22

Parts are easy to obtain for Petter A1's so most of the parts you need should be the same as yours but you need to have a good look at them first. If your not 100% sure ask the seller to send you more pics or sizes.
The Pulley is a inch and a half same as the Lister D so that shouldn't be a problem getting the correct size pulley either for flat or V belts.

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Re: Petter A2

Post by Foden on Mon Oct 29 2012, 11:35

The Lister pulley will fit the shaft ok but the Petter keyway is smaller. I am planning to make a stepped key to get mine a nice snug fit, though I suppose that you could pack the pulley keyway out on the sides?

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Post by stationary stu on Mon Oct 29 2012, 11:43

I forgot about the key way oops Laughing I didn't need to do anything with mine as it also had a grub screw which tightened it up nicely.

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Tue Oct 30 2012, 07:55

There is a key on the shaft but seems solid in the groove so got some penetrating spray on it at the mo.
If I can get it off then I can clean it up ready for when I get a pulley.
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Post by stationary stu on Tue Oct 30 2012, 10:50

Good luck with getting the key way out they either fall out or you think they are welded to the shaft. There's a few different tools about to remove them one sells on ebay for £20ish but you could make your own, there is a thread with pics and sizes(I think) of what you could make.

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Thu Nov 01 2012, 07:05

Thanks for the info Stu, so far it is not budging but I will carry on trying.
Also thanks Kev for the E-mail, it arrived and got printed off straight away.
Made a bit of a mistake after putting a new bolt on the mag, I had to take it out and put it to one side, the cog got spun No , now got to line it up again, just hope I get it right. affraid
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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Fri Nov 02 2012, 07:07

Found a Gas up and sale near me on Sunday, hope I might find a starting handle, Its over at Hassocks near Brighton, should be a good day. Very Happy
Got the engine back together now, only doing a small restoration as I don't have a workshop, everything is done outside on a friends farm( a very muddy farm), living in a flat with no garage is not the ideal situation.
Trying to get a garage through the local council, private rent is more than I can afford till I get back into work. Neutral

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Post by nutgone on Fri Nov 02 2012, 10:36

grizman23 wrote:Found a Gas up and sale near me on Sunday, hope I might find a starting handle, Its over at Hassocks near Brighton, should be a good day. Very Happy


Hi Griz, can you possibly PM me the details of that event? (or put them up on here). I'm in Sussex (East Sussex, but Hassocks is well within my reach) I would love to come along. There seems to be very little to do with stationary engines down this way over the winter. I'm sure my brother & his boys would love to come along as well.

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Post by stationary stu on Fri Nov 02 2012, 11:47

nutgone wrote:
grizman23 wrote:Found a Gas up and sale near me on Sunday, hope I might find a starting handle, Its over at Hassocks near Brighton, should be a good day. Very Happy


Hi Griz, can you possibly PM me the details of that event? (or put them up on here). I'm in Sussex (East Sussex, but Hassocks is well within my reach) I would love to come along. There seems to be very little to do with stationary engines down this way over the winter. I'm sure my brother & his boys would love to come along as well.

Careful Nuts you could end up sleeping rough if you go and buy something Laughing Laughing Laughing

Good luck in your search there's always Enstone Nov 10th where you might find what you need, sorry don't know where it's at but it's down south somewhere Laughing Laughing

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Fri Nov 02 2012, 21:06

No problem, here is the info for you and anyone else interested. Smile Smile

Sunday 4th November Gas up and Bring and Buy at The South Downs Garden Centre.
Brighton Rd, Hassocks, West Sussex BN6 9LY
Don't know the start time but probably when the Garden Centre opens.
Next one.
Sunday 18th November, LL Club Autojumble at The Grange Centre, Midhurst. 10am till 3pm.

Hope this helps.
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Post by nutgone on Fri Nov 02 2012, 23:06

grizman23 wrote:No problem, here is the info for you and anyone else interested. Smile Smile

Sunday 4th November Gas up and Bring and Buy at The South Downs Garden Centre.
Brighton Rd, Hassocks, West Sussex BN6 9LY
Don't know the start time but probably when the Garden Centre opens.
Next one.
Sunday 18th November, LL Club Autojumble at The Grange Centre, Midhurst. 10am till 3pm.

Hope this helps.
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Right, I think we (Ianhw77k & myself) will be on for this one. I fancy bringing a couple of our latest engines along too. Maybe my little JAP & Ian could bring his Diesel Petter. Maybe he should bring his boys along too. I'll try to remember to bring my insurance papers & hopefully they'll let us run.

If you want to introduce yourself then keep your eyes open for us, our engines are both in the resto section, he drives a metallic blue Citroen Synergie (like a Peugeot 806), I'm always wearing a baseball cap, with long hair & looking rather tatty.

Thanks for the details, maybe see you there.

(Oh yes, we'll be in his car, I can't fit engines in mine & I can't afford to put petrol in it either! Embarassed )

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Re: Petter A2

Post by grizman23 on Sat Nov 03 2012, 07:27

Glad I could help.
Thought you might like to see the latest photo of my engine,not quite there but near enough. Very Happy

Not too bad

Now see the area I have to work in.

Hopefully things will get better soon and I will be able to get into a proper workshop area.
Griz bounce bounce Wink

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