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Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Oct 26 2012, 22:21

well the deal is done
coming from a man man on the dales as many of my collection have,
not run for about 10 yrs and seized as aways with me ,from standing in a shed but with water in the head ,from 2 mths max he tells me Shocked Embarassed affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
collection is sorted for tomorrrow
on the same load as the 55 jap and other crap Very Happy Very Happy lol! affraid affraid lol! Very Happy Very Happy
but what state it is in other than seized with standing in a shed ,is as always unknow

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Post by Foden on Fri Oct 26 2012, 22:51

Good luck! There is most of one in my garage that I keep falling over.

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Post by JONESEY on Fri Oct 26 2012, 23:34

Good luck with it Kev ,were are you stacking them all
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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 26 2012, 23:47

I bet when kev reaches for the porn under the bed .... oh and finds a cylinder head in his hand ! Laughing Laughing

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Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Oct 27 2012, 02:16

matt86 wrote:I bet when kev reaches for the porn under the bed .... oh and finds a cylinder head in his hand ! Laughing Laughing

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the porn had to go a while back,
to make room for the workshop manuals
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Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Oct 27 2012, 02:24

JONESEY wrote:Good luck with it Kev ,were are you stacking them all
Jonesey
well i dont know how i do it but the sheds are organised with room for these two
but also maybe" fingers crossed " got a home swap on the go,monday Cool Cool Cool
a home with a drive and a garden with a shed already there
and 2x bedrooms and STAIRS TOO Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
inside of 1x bed flat and me and wife sleeping on the floor in the living room on a matress "feeling like squaters " Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed so are kids have a proper cote/bedroom and a place to play,
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Post by kevjhnsn on Sat Oct 27 2012, 02:30

Foden wrote:Good luck! There is most of one in my garage that I keep falling over.

Pete.
pete please pm me your contact no details ect , so we can talk ,as you do rallys that i never get to find out about until later lol mate
or im at a rally with you and dont get to talk too you or see you until were back on the forum Embarassed Embarassed
and i maybe in need of some vill diesel doner/or a good one that this may be of use too Exclamation Suspect Question cyclops Idea Embarassed Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Ianhw77k on Sat Oct 27 2012, 09:00

These sound like interesting engines, don't think I've seen either in the flesh before so will be interested to see pictures of these.
Good luck with them mate Smile

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 27 2012, 09:39

kev how many engine do you have now ? like to see a picture with them all stacked in that shed mate .

good luck with the swap if goes all ahead .

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Post by stationary stu on Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:07

kevjhnsn wrote:
Foden wrote:Good luck! There is most of one in my garage that I keep falling over.

Pete.
pete please pm me your contact no details ect , so we can talk ,as you do rallys that i never get to find out about until later lol mate
or im at a rally with you and dont get to talk too you or see you until were back on the forum Embarassed Embarassed
and i maybe in need of some vill diesel doner/or a good one that this may be of use too Exclamation Suspect Question cyclops Idea Embarassed Very Happy Very Happy
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Pete spends all weekend hiding from you Kev lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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Post by stationary stu on Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:09

Good luck with the Villiers Kev, as long as the fuel system is ok then you should have no problems.

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Post by Foden on Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:28

Ianhw77k wrote:These sound like interesting engines, don't think I've seen either in the flesh before so will be interested to see pictures of these.
Good luck with them mate Smile

You have obviously never heard one running either Ian, a painfull experience! Shocked They must have been the noisiest diesel invented, that's why you dont see many at rallies.

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Post by stationary stu on Sat Oct 27 2012, 10:48

Thought I'd check you tube out for one but the only one on there has a silencer fitted, so you don't get the full effect Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by kevjhnsn on Sun Oct 28 2012, 00:39

thanks lads for the support
will try and get some good pics done asap for the ones interested
and will also have an engine count up to
i know i have 6x working different makes of water pump ,and not a lister domestic"correction i have one of them to i restored years ago on a trolley with a villiers mk10/2 3:1 reduction box ,2x concrete mixers one with a wolseley wd powering it
2x bamford mills a small one and a no2
diesel stat lister cs 8-1 , a lister and a petter 3 cylinder geny sets on cast bases with wall tanks ect

amanco 2 1/4 p/p p/p = petrol / parrafin vapourizing engine
villiers 7/1
villiers midget 2 stroke

more than one of each of the following in the variaties of c , hs , rg , 3:1 , 5:1
10
10/1
10/2
12
20

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d415
d141
d
villiers mk25 p/p
jap 2a
jap 2s
jap 4/3
jap 5
jap 55 p/p
villiers wx11 lzh 1 1/2hp
"" lzha 2hp
jlo rockwell L777L
head hurts i give up will look tomorrow and see what else

ive sold the BSA 120cc
lister A
wolseley wd6
villiers 20
petter a1
a midget
and a barford atom 10/2 villiers
mk20 villiers


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Post by matt86 on Sun Oct 28 2012, 09:38

were the hell do you keep them all Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Post by stationary stu on Sun Oct 28 2012, 11:32

Kev you do need a bigger house so good luck with getting one mate, just hope you get somewhere more suitable for your engines Laughing Laughing Laughing

Kev if we joined together we could have one hell of a rally for just 2 people lol! lol! lol!

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Post by kevjhnsn on Wed Oct 31 2012, 00:20

i bet we could mate
i would love to look in the gourdy shore stu sheds as your a secret little squarrel " ploop "heres a project ive just finished restoring Shocked Shocked Very Happy Shocked Shocked lol
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Post by kevjhnsn on Wed Oct 31 2012, 00:28

well ive swapped the jap 55 v/o for the villiers diesel d270
one in one out so had a scrapper on it and got the lumps of gungy shi poopee off
and got the rocker cover off to find it full of buxton spring water affraid affraid affraid
and the fuel tank has diesel in it and no water thank good but the engine sump looks water free to well what i can see though filler, side cover ect
so the rockers are under load from the valves and ive got to get the rocker shaft out to release the pressure and get the valve spring compressure in there
so the maybe rockers flying through space soon tonight study scratch study scratch affraid affraid
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Post by stationary stu on Wed Oct 31 2012, 11:04

Sounds as you may have your work cut out with this one me thinks, so you'll have to keep us posted and a few pics would be nice along the way to see your progress.
Now as for my sheds I don't think my wife could find the lock up Laughing Laughing Laughing so what makes you think you'll get me to take you to my Aladins cave Laughing Laughing Laughing and I need to have a sort around as I'm thinking or getting a bigger shed (to work in this time) but I can't go to big because of a stupid main hole cover in the middle of the back garden so I'll have to work out if it's worth getting a shed a few feet bigger will I achieve what I'm after (no it will never be big enough Laughing Laughing ) just hoping these shed places have a winter sale on and I can get one at a good price and the shed I have is going to my daughter as she needs one.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Wed Oct 31 2012, 15:36

stu
put a access hatch in the floor of the shed ,then when needed the manhole is availble Exclamation Idea Exclamation
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Post by kevjhnsn on Wed Oct 31 2012, 15:48

well the pston has been soaking all night with my cocktail in , but still no joy
noticed the flywheel and alloy bell housing has a 1mm at most clearance and over 1" of the 2 overlap with this small gap which with the corrosion
from the cast and alloy wont be helping to get it moving
the bell housing bolts are berried behind the flywheel out of reach affraid the flywheel is now released from the crank but still not going anywere hast Sad Sad affraid confused Shocked
so thats just upsetting for the minute
but the rocker shaft pushrods injector silencer are all off the cylinder head, but yet again cant go forward untill the piston is moving in the bore as its a semi blind head untill valves are compressed and the collets out to drop the valves into the cylinder bore Shocked Shocked
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Post by stationary stu on Thu Nov 01 2012, 11:17

kevjhnsn wrote:stu
put a access hatch in the floor of the shed ,then when needed the manhole is availble Exclamation Idea Exclamation
kev

Kev then the bigger size shed to go over the cover will be too big and block all the light out of the kitchen.

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Post by stationary stu on Thu Nov 01 2012, 11:19

Patients Kev, it's going to be a long slow job mate.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Thu Nov 01 2012, 16:39

well been chating to pete FODEN
and he says i can borrow his crank handle to make a copy from
if its the right size scratch study as pete has know tought me there were 2x sizes of the diesels a D270 and a D415
so thats somthing i didnt know and glad to learn it at this early time of restoring one or the other sizes
found a d415 on utube , the only visable difference i can see is the flywheel is alot fatter in the middle so that maybe the only difference
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Post by Foden on Thu Nov 01 2012, 17:09

kevjhnsn wrote:well been chating to pete FODEN
and he says i can borrow his crank handle to make a copy from
if its the right size scratch study as pete has know tought me there were 2x sizes of the diesels a D270 and a D415
so thats somthing i didnt know and glad to learn it at this early time of restoring one or the other sizes
found a d415 on utube , the only visable difference i can see is the flywheel is alot fatter in the middle so that maybe the only difference
just more flywheel momentum Question Question
kev

Kev the engine details on mine are on a large plate rivetted to the top of the aircleaner housing, it gives the serial number and the oil specs etc. The D415 is a larger engine physically and very few parts are interchangeable with the smaller one, maybe a pic would help to identify it? If your engine has a decompressor fitted then it may be a 415 as a lot of the smaller version didn't have them fitted and they were a right pig to start whereas all the 415's had them.

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