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Post by blackvanman on Mon Mar 25 2013, 22:21

Hi all,
Running Ed's D type at Westlands on Saturday, I was looking at her and thinking, that flywheel's not running true, I shut her down as Ed was busy running the food stall, and had a look, sure enough there was around 50 Thou of play on the crank main bearing, "oh pooh, no more running for you today"

So today as Ed has no workshop as yet and won't time to do anything with me on it for a while, and it would be a shame if he couldn't run her next week, I picked her up in the van and brought her here for a transplant.
The crazy thing is it only took me 1hr 15m to do the following including unloading, mind you, 30min of that was getting the gib key out lol.















The offending little beggar


Going to take the bearing to my local supplier tomorrow in the hope they may have one on the shelf at a sensible price Smile
Then with any luck she can go back together again ready for next weekend Smile

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Cheers Andy..

Post by ED3229 on Tue Mar 26 2013, 08:23

All I need to do is pay for the parts........ Very Happy

I will get my hands dirty one day...... Crying or Very sad

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Post by steve w on Tue Mar 26 2013, 09:08

Nice one BVM - i could do with someone like you local to me - lol Smile

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Post by stationary stu on Tue Mar 26 2013, 12:03

steve w wrote:Nice one BVM - i could do with someone like you local to me - lol Smile

Couldn't we all LOL

Nice work Andy you always get the easy jobs to do Very Happy Laughing Laughing Laughing

Fingers crossed you can get a bearing ok and get it up n running for the weekend.

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by blackvanman on Tue Mar 26 2013, 12:30

stationary stu wrote:
steve w wrote:Nice one BVM - i could do with someone like you local to me - lol Smile

Couldn't we all LOL

Nice work Andy you always get the easy jobs to do Very Happy Laughing Laughing Laughing

Fingers crossed you can get a bearing ok and get it up n running for the weekend.

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Have the bearing in my hand now, have got an up rated sealed bearing for two reasons, one its what they had in stock, two, looking at the build design of the D being splash lube, there is only a hole below and to the side of the bearing and the other bearing was dripping in oil where as the outer (this one) had very little oil present, with the sealed bearing this will never be an issue, you could argue its gone 60yrs like this but hey ho lol.

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by blackvanman on Tue Mar 26 2013, 16:07

new bearing seated


Crank shaft back in and bearing carrier re-fitted to the block


Won't bother with pics of the flywheel back on etc as they are already covered above, all in all it could have been a lot worse, play has been completely overcome as would be expected with a new bearing having just been fitted Smile. Just need to get the wheels/handles back on the trolley and load it back on the van on Sat morning Smile

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Post by nutgone on Tue Mar 26 2013, 16:54

Nice work. Isn't it good when everything goes relatively to plan with no nasty surprises? Very Happy

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Post by blackvanman on Tue Mar 26 2013, 17:13

nutgone wrote:Nice work. Isn't it good when everything goes relatively to plan with no nasty surprises? Very Happy
Oh yes Very Happy

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Post by Andrew1971 on Tue Mar 26 2013, 17:26

There the best one's nice + easy Very Happy

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by stationary stu on Wed Mar 27 2013, 12:09

A good job done Andy, Ed is very lucky to have a mate so handy. Very Happy

Looking forward to this weeks pics/videos Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by blackvanman on Wed Mar 27 2013, 16:29

stationary stu wrote:A good job done Andy, Ed is very lucky to have a mate so handy. Very Happy

Looking forward to this weeks pics/videos Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Stu.
yeah, I'm temporarily stealing Ed's pulley this weekend to put on the wolseley so she can run the leo pump Smile

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by stationary stu on Thu Mar 28 2013, 12:59

blackvanman wrote:
stationary stu wrote:A good job done Andy, Ed is very lucky to have a mate so handy. Very Happy

Looking forward to this weeks pics/videos Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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yeah, I'm temporarily stealing Ed's pulley this weekend to put on the wolseley so she can run the leo pump Smile

Ahhh so that's the real reason for not showing a pic with the flywheel on pulley back on the engine :stick lol: :stick lol: :stick lol:

Hope it runs at the correct speed with the wolseley Andy.

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Will my "D" every run right !!!

Post by ED3229 on Sat Mar 30 2013, 17:37

Well after the bearing job it now needs a new head gasket..........
Lucky for me I have my very own superhero Blackvanman to the rescue Very Happy

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by matt86 on Sat Mar 30 2013, 20:53

personal mechanic by the sound of it Laughing

soon il be delving the deeps into a D type with the one sat in my van .

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by blackvanman on Sat Mar 30 2013, 22:49

ED3229 wrote:Well after the bearing job it now needs a new head gasket..........
Lucky for me I have my very own superhero Blackvanman to the rescue Very Happy

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I wouldn't go that far lol
Won't take much, she's in pretty good nick over all so with any luck it won't take long to whip the head off, clean the faces and do a de-coke, plus the Mag needs shimming up, the chain rather slack Very Happy.

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Post by stationary stu on Sun Mar 31 2013, 12:58

Andy it might be time for a new chain, I tried to take the slack out of one of mine it had every shim I could find under the mag and I was even thinking about making some shims out of some sheet aluminium I have. Then I though it was just stupid to continue so just bought another chain, I must get that fitted and sort that D out. Laughing Laughing Laughing Although there's enough D threads running ATM.

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Post by nutgone on Sun Mar 31 2013, 13:16

I had the same trouble with the Lister I bought for my nephews. I bought a chain from Stationary Engine Parts & it's too wide for the sprockets. (will they ever get anything right?).

I expect I will just put it on anyway as the pitch is correct. Hopefully it'll still run fine. Just thought I would warn any prospective buyers. I've no idea how much it affects anything as, like Stu, I haven't got round to fitting it yet.

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Post by blackvanman on Sun Mar 31 2013, 17:58

nutgone wrote:I had the same trouble with the Lister I bought for my nephews. I bought a chain from Stationary Engine Parts & it's too wide for the sprockets. (will they ever get anything right?).

I expect I will just put it on anyway as the pitch is correct. Hopefully it'll still run fine. Just thought I would warn any prospective buyers. I've no idea how much it affects anything as, like Stu, I haven't got round to fitting it yet.
if its that bad I'll knock a link out Very Happy

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Post by nutgone on Sun Mar 31 2013, 18:08

It'll probably be too short then. Very Happy

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Post by blackvanman on Sun Mar 31 2013, 21:20

nutgone wrote:It'll probably be too short then. Very Happy
its got 1/2" or more slack, and already fitted with a 1.5mm shim, think it should be ok to loose one Very Happy lol

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Post by matt86 on Sun Mar 31 2013, 21:53

When i do mine il go to my local engineers surpliers and get some new chain and joining link . Will be a bank beaker i know had chains much longer at work on ransomes mowers and they was no more than £5

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Post by nutgone on Sun Mar 31 2013, 22:37

You can get standard chain, links, cranked links (half links) etc on eBay. When my dad put a bigger final drive sprocket on his Velocette the chain was "only just" so he ordered a cranked link & it was fine. I was surprised to see the seller did all sizes, including the American standard as well, & prices were very good. I wish I'd known before I went to SEP for my Lister chain (still not sure if it'll do any damage running a wider chain on narrow sprockets? I certainly don't like the idea).

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Post by matt86 on Sun Mar 31 2013, 22:51

Half links are a godsend ! if the chain will not quite fit it saves your skin instead of a new chain .

Nuts , i ordered a chain for my A type from them a while ago and found the same problem , Its still sat in the shed somewhere . I only shop there if i really need to .

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Re: Ed's Lister D Little tlc

Post by stationary stu on Mon Apr 01 2013, 12:43

Guys unless you complain there going to get away with send out the wrong chain and it's about a tenner a chain not a bad earner for them. I managed to pick up a new chain in box for a fiver Very Happy very happy about it.
I have one of those small chain link removal tools. I bought it to fix the kids bikes does anyone know if it can be used on bigger heavier chains?

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Post by matt86 on Mon Apr 01 2013, 19:57

you mean the ones that have 2 handles and there is a knob you wind down that pushes a pin out ?

Or use a angle grinder and take the head of a link .

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