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Post by matt86 on Thu Apr 25 2013, 20:38

after a while i have got so fed up with the trolley i made for it when restored it i have decided to make one thats better to steer like a american style where axle turns under the frame .

So have made a start from some 3 x 4 tulipwood

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The steel disc will be welded to the turning axle for a turntable which will be greased and nice and thick so no fear of anything bending .

Sanded it down today , just need to get some danish oil and give it a few good coats with it .

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Apr 26 2013, 01:19

lovely wood youve choose there matt
hows the dusting going Wink
love the joinery too mate showing me up Crying or Very sad
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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Fri Apr 26 2013, 07:18

Cheers kev

Its just practice as my dad is a chippie well a self taught one so does it alot for his job , so he taught me alot of times its just practice . Much easier doing joints in hardwood than softwood .

dusting yeah it everywhere over the D bits ... Rolling Eyes

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by stationary stu on Fri Apr 26 2013, 11:24

Nice lump of tree Matt should look good with the Danish oil covering it. So don't forget to take a few pics once you've oiled it up.

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Fri Apr 26 2013, 13:10

that's what il be doing next Stu, it's all sanded down smooth as a baby's bum . so il try get some over weekend.

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Sun Jun 09 2013, 20:28

bit of an update on the trolley ,

I know progress has been slow but not had much time when not at a rally or work to do much work ..

spend some time this weekend getting it more up together .

Got the steering axle pained with its 3rd coat of red oxide .





Just done the last coat of oil on the trolley now . Its had 6 thick coats of Danish oil and brings the grain out really nice on the Tulip wood , is a bit of a odd grain as goes from dark to light and then one side looks dirty but its just how the grain is .

Just need to drill a hole in the flat plate and fit the front axle once its been painted . Then make the axle for the rear axle one the front is on so i can get it all level .

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by Lewis MacRae on Sun Jun 09 2013, 20:57

Looks good there matt, Never heard of tulip wood is it African wood?

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Sun Jun 09 2013, 21:01

not a clue all i know its a hardwood and its not made from the flowers Laughing

nice to work with and acording to the joinery i got the timber from they say its one of the better hardwoods and does not bow or crack with age . Iroko Does bow alot apparently and i have had this happen to me with one of my trolleys .

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by Ianhw77k on Mon Jun 10 2013, 13:20

Tulip wood comes from the Poplar tree.
It is getting very popular these days because it is readily available and pretty cheap. Not the best wood for engine trolleys but certainly not the worst either. I would like some ash or hickory myself but I don't know where to find it and even if I could find it, I doubt I could afford it Shocked so I will probably be going down the same route as Matt pretty soon.

Nice job there, shame we couldn't see any pictures of the jointing process Wink

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Mon Jun 10 2013, 14:27

I have oak for the runners of my Lister D trolley.

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Post by Ianhw77k on Mon Jun 10 2013, 15:08

Lewis MacRae wrote:I have oak for the runners of my Lister D trolley.

Oak doesn't react well with ferrous metals. Wink

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Mon Jun 10 2013, 15:12

Ianhw77k wrote:
Lewis MacRae wrote:I have oak for the runners of my Lister D trolley.

Oak doesn't react well with ferrous metals. Wink
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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by Ianhw77k on Mon Jun 10 2013, 15:46

The tannins in oak react with iron and make it rust. Mind you, I reckon you'd be fine with a painted/oiled engine. I only learned that fact when I was discussing gun stocks.
Just make sure any metal touching the oak has a good protective layer on it.

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Mon Jun 10 2013, 16:02

i know a place where i can get allsorts of hardwood for trade but as say you have to pay for it ...

The Tulip wood was £30 for 3 mtrs of 4 x 3 and thats including running through the thicknesser too .

Ian the jointing process was done using a router and i find thats a much neater job , I keep borrowing my dads trend one . Think i need to dig deep and buy my own , verry useful tool , and if make cabinets extreamly handy for the grooves etc .

Just painted the front axle with some black , waiting to dry off now and can fit the front axle to it .

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by Ianhw77k on Mon Jun 10 2013, 17:39

I'm thinking of attempting my own mortice and tenon joints with nothing more than a set of sharp chisels, a couple of decent wood saws and a lot of patience. It won't look as clean as that job you're doing there but as long as I take my time I reckon it should be OK.

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Post by matt86 on Mon Jun 10 2013, 17:48

Ianhw77k wrote:I'm thinking of attempting my own mortice and tenon joints with nothing more than a set of sharp chisels, a couple of decent wood saws and a lot of patience. It won't look as clean as that job you're doing there but as long as I take my time I reckon it should be OK.

nothing wrong with doing the joints by hand , i have a nice set or irwin chisels and a wet stone to sharpen them , nothing worse than a blunt chisel .... ends up splitting the wood in some cases . I jointed all the rafters in the shed with that set i bought just for the job .

just mark up your lines and saw the outside lines to the depth and then lots of cuts between the outside cuts , that way have lots of small chips being knocked out rather than big chunks and a risk of taking too much out .. Sorry if im telling a granny how to suck eggs here Embarassed

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by stationary stu on Tue Jun 11 2013, 11:55

Only problem I have with my joints is when the weed falls out the end. affraid :stick lol: :stick lol: :stick lol: :stick lol:

I enjoy working with wood but i'm self taught, and I've been thinking about getting a router and the table for years but I'm not sure what I'll need, maybe if I can work out what i'm using it for might help. Laughing Laughing Laughing

A well made joint is better then a handful of nails and looks better.

Ian have you tried any salvage yards for some wood, they tend to have plenty of choice of wood, just needs a clean up and put in a surface planner to true it up, then away you go. Very Happy

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Tue Jul 16 2013, 21:00

Right lads with everything on over the last month ish i have been too busy to finish of the trolley . Well i have finally got the trolley done and the engine on the trolley . All i need to do is to make a handle up for it , superposed to be taking it out this weekend , so i better pull my finger out lol! lol! lol! 



All joking aside i walked away for 5 minutes and some scouser nicked my bloody wheels !  



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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by Matth92 on Thu Jul 18 2013, 20:46

It looks a bit overdone for that grotty old Lister, Look boys he aint even bothered to paint the engine!!Twisted Evil 

I remember when I used to paint all my axles and wheels etc, don't bother these days!!

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Re: Lister A trolley re make

Post by matt86 on Thu Jul 18 2013, 20:58

Matth92 wrote:It looks a bit overdone for that grotty old Lister, Look boys he aint even bothered to paint the engine!!Twisted Evil 

I remember when I used to paint all my axles and wheels etc, don't bother these days!!

matt stop swearing at me "paint" spit spit ... only reason why i paint the wheels and axles as made from new steel thats unpainted and stop it rusting ... Tell you what aerosol enamel paint is great give it 1 coat on a warm day and dies lovley with good protection and not much hassle

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