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Post by matt86 on Fri May 24 2013, 07:23

Hello all , i have just recieved some 3 " flat belting and a joiner .

My question is for you who have done this before , whats the best way to do it ?

Just start the staples off with a hammer and the squeeze together in a vice and repeat for other side . With the joining pin do i cut of flush or do i just bend the edges up slightly to stop sliding out ?

this is the type of belt and joiner i got

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251126473449?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

and the joiner

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251126473449?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by nutgone on Fri May 24 2013, 08:19

Oh my god did I have some trouble with this on the Kohler's flat fan belt! Embarassed Mad Embarassed

It's easier on the bigger belts Matt, the Kohler was a 1" belt & the thickness was between the 2 main sizes for the Alligator Lacing clips.

Ideally it should be done with a hammer, make sure the belt ends are cut dead square & very neatly. The pin should be cut off flush, as the belt tension will hold it in place. I sometimes bash the very end of the pin to try & bell it out a bit, but it doesn't work very well & it's easy to bend it.

Make sure the pin is in there while you are hammering the clips down, or it probably won't go in there afterwards.

Have a play about Matt, but if you feel yourself getting annoyed with it, then walk away & come back later.

I used a whole strip of the clip just to join a 1" belt! I had it OK a couple of times, but decided it wasn't quite good enough & I just had to mess with it, didn't I?! Mad

Anyway, I think I was using the wrong clips for that particular belt. You'll probably have no trouble with this. I did a 4" belt way back when I was a teenager, & I got that one right first time! Very Happy

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by matt86 on Fri May 24 2013, 08:53

cheers nuts, I have done simular type of joiner but it's on round bailer belts and had a die that goes into the vice and the joiner went into the die. and belt into it, you tightened vice to crimp all together, with a punch put it in a series of holes and hit twice per hole with a hammer. this peened over the pins. but was a different type of joiner.

so il just go gently with a hammer with pin in.

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by Biggusdannus on Fri May 24 2013, 09:13

I can't see what joiner you have Matt as you've posted the belt link twice.
If it's the alligator type then you should have an oval ridged joining pin and a steel gauge rod with a bend at the end. What you do is make sure the end of the belt is cut square and cut the joiner to the required size, then but the rod up to the end of the belt and place the joiner over the rod/belt tight up against it. You want to have the underside of the joiner on a metal surface, you can then tap it with a hammer so the teeth of the joiner bite into the belt. Repeat this on the other side taking care to make sure the gauge rod is square with the end of the belt.
What you then need to do is cut one piece of the ridged joining pin to the size and cut another piece so the ridges are offset.
You can then drive the pins into the joiner, you may need to tidy up the ends with a file to prevent snagging.
Hope this helps, Dan

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Post by matt86 on Fri May 24 2013, 12:55

yea it's there alligator type, the pin is just round pin witch is smooth with no ridges. so don't know how it's going to stay in.

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by Biggusdannus on Fri May 24 2013, 12:57

matt86 wrote:yea it's there alligator type, the pin is just round pin witch is smooth with no ridges. so don't know how it's going to stay in.

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Oh right, then you have the wrong pin then. I'd get in contact with who sold you it and ask them to send you the proper joiner. I'll get a picture of the proper pins in a minute if you'd like?

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by matt86 on Fri May 24 2013, 19:03

defently not like thats and i did know what type of pin you meant as previosully said i used to do bailer belts . The ridges hold it together .

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by nutgone on Fri May 24 2013, 20:07

I've joined these belts with a straight rod before, it will stay in, the belt tension will hold it together.

But, as Dan says, it should be the ridged pin really, but I didn't know any better back then.

I told myself I was going to have a weekend off the forum, I'm at a rally, in my awning, using my phone for this. Hopefully it's of some use to you Matt.

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by matt86 on Fri May 24 2013, 20:23

I have joined the belt lads ...

with the straight pin i just bent over the ends but cut close should not toutch the pulley , and seems all ok .

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Re: flat belting ..

Post by jay on Sun May 26 2013, 07:51

just bend the end of the rod over by 90degrees and the other end of the rod bend it the opposite way..
There is a proper tool for belt joining but very rarely will you see 1 for sale..

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