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Lister D, First Engine Restoration (Hopefully)

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Lister D, First Engine Restoration (Hopefully)

Post by interloper on Sat Jun 22 2013, 03:33

Lesson #1, try to buy engines on trolleys, I suspect it makes life easier:roll:

Anyway, I recently bought my first stationary engine, a Lister D.  And have the intention of restoring it.  What was going to be a quick look, maybe change to HT lead turned into a quite extensive strip down.  I got a bit carried away.

://s1277.photobucket.com  /user/liveinahole/slideshow/Lister%20D%201-1685 (add a "http" and remove the space)

So the only nasty surprise was the big end bearing, which has definitely seen better days.  The pulley didn't want to come off the shaft either but that wasn't totally unexpected.  Other than that I didn't see any major problems.

Time to order some parts, maybe think about a trolley too.  I'll try to keep this up to date as I manage to get work done.

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Post by steve w on Sat Jun 22 2013, 05:42

sounds interesting Joe - you will have to take a few pics and post them when you can :thumbup:

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Post by Biggsy on Sun Jun 23 2013, 12:07

hi, my bearing looked the same ....well minced, i bought replacement from stationary engine parts, the new one did not match the old one when it came to the holes..i put some pics on my thread, my solution was to turn new bearing 45 degrees and drill new ones, i pre drilled the oil finger hole...fitted the new bearing to conrod setting the hole in correct place and bearing offset, i drilled the 2 oil holes after it was in place and all is good...hope this helps as i spent some time trying to sort

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Post by nutgone on Sun Jun 23 2013, 19:03

Looking good Joe. Aren't you in the South East??? I've got a feeling I commented on your welcome thread & I think I saw that engine for sale locally.

Anyway, it's coming along nicely by the looks & seems to be in relatively good condition, all things considered.

Will be watching with interest as I bought my nephews a Lister D for christmas, it's in much worse condition than yours is. We've barely started it & they keep on asking me when we're going to get it done. I can't put it off for ever.

A trolley will improve the situation 100%, these engines aren't just bloody heavy, they're also bloody awkward to handle as well! Embarassed

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Post by interloper on Sun Jun 23 2013, 19:32

Glad to hear you got yours sorted Paul, I've ordered the bush so we'll see how that goes:roll:  Next, and I think last on the list for dis-assembly is getting the pulley and flywheel off the end of the crank:scratch:  Seem to be having trouble finding your thread as well?

I am indeed Nutts, I'm in Shoreham, but I get over towards you (Seaford) quite regularly.  I'll try and search you out at Wiston (I should make it).

Yeah, I'm quite pleased with the progress so far, and that there weren't more parts showing wear.  That being said I'm yet to have a look at the cylinder head.

Well I'll try and keep taking photographs and providing some inspiration;)

Tell me about it, it wasn't too bad collecting it with the help of a mate, but moving it across the garage on my own when it was complete was a right a*$£.  Short of taking the bits off the crank I think that's made it to the top of the list.

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Post by Biggsy on Sun Jun 23 2013, 22:42

doing more work on mine....but i have put link below on my bush issue...hope it helps.
i could not get my flywheel to budge either so i did as the guys here advised and left it on...as you can remove crank ok with it on.

http://www.stationaryengineforum.net/t5322p15-lister-d-help-please

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Post by nutgone on Sun Jun 23 2013, 22:45

It's bloody heavy though, the crank with flywheel, crank shaft & bearing casing still intact. If you do do it that way be prepared for a heavy lump of metal to come off.

Think I will end up doing that on my nephews one.

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Post by interloper on Tue Jun 25 2013, 17:58

I'd already whipped the crank assembly out of the case complete, it was very heavy.  I can see why you might leave it all together, the head had been pre snapped off my gib key and it was some effort to get everything apart.Rolling Eyes

However both pulley and flywheel are off the crank now, I'll get some pictures and post them up soon.

Got hold of some wood (Iroko) to build a trolley out of, so hopefully that will be done relatively soon, just need to find some wheels.  In the meantime I'm planning on getting the crankcase cleaned up, painted, and ready to mount.

Thanks for the link to your post Paul, the one I've just removed looks much like the new one that you got so fingers crossed.Very Happy

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Post by nutgone on Tue Jun 25 2013, 22:05

Blimey! You're cracking on well by the sounds of it.

Great progress.

(I've lost my smilies, but would've put a thumbs-up in there somewhere)

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Post by interloper on Sat Jun 29 2013, 16:48

A little bit more progress over the last couple of days, I've now disassembled the crank.  I was going to leave it all together but I'm quite glad I didn't, the bearings have seen better days.

I've also started cleaning the paint off the crankcase, hopefully it won't be too long before I can get it cleaned up and start painting that bit.

A link to the photobucket album showing ongoing progress;
http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/liveinahole/library/Lister%20D%201-1685

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Post by nutgone on Sat Jun 29 2013, 19:18

Looking really good. You'll be glad of those pics when it comes time to reassemble. Only yesterday I had to look through an album to see which way round a sprocket went on my Lister A.

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Post by interloper on Thu Jul 04 2013, 22:32

Work continues apace...

Crankcase has been stripped, bore deglazed, and had a new drain tap boss fitted.  And tonight has had a first coat of paint.

Crank bearing carrier has been cleaned, had a couple of coats of paint and had the smaller bearing fitted

I've also been working on a trolley (it was on a couple of rotten sticks when I got it), this is what it looks like so far...

I've found one pair of wheels that's relatively large, so now I just need to find a couple of smaller wheels for the steering axle.

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Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Jul 05 2013, 00:58

looking good
keep it up :thumbup: :thumbup: 
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Post by interloper on Fri Jul 19 2013, 21:11

Well, there's been a little bit more progress, I've found and collected another set of wheels.  Started painting the valve gear assembly and started giving the head some attention, which turned out to be interesting :roll:Ignoring the decidedly sloppy (and oval) valve guides, the head has obviously been off in the past, but the washers weren't returned to below the brass nuts, which had been over tightened Mad This meant that both the brass nuts and the iron of the head were belled out.  After some time with a (stupidly) long slot drill and a bit of effort on the lathe I have flat faces in the head, flat nuts and new iron valve guides.  Now to make some new spring seats Very Happy

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Post by lau1990 on Mon Jul 22 2013, 15:31

looking good....i restored a listyer last summer took me about 3 month on and off Smile but totally worth it at the end was a very proud owner on the rally field last wkend

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Post by interloper on Fri Jul 26 2013, 12:50

Thanks Lau, is that the one that's in your shearer thread?  I had a read of that recently, it looks like it turned out really well! Very Happy

Some more progress.  Made new spring seats and washers for under the head nuts, valves lapped in and reassembled.  Head has just had its first coat of paint.  I'll try and take a couple of pics when I get a chance...

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Post by kevjhnsn on Fri Jul 26 2013, 14:41

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sounds like your making good progress
keep it up :thumbup: :thumbup: 
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Post by interloper on Wed Oct 02 2013, 13:18

Well, everything has been slightly hectic recently, so progress hasn't been as fast as I'd like.  However, there has been some

A couple of small things left, but it's getting there.
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Post by Lewis MacRae on Wed Oct 02 2013, 18:10

looking good, not long now till you go for a first start

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Post by interloper on Fri Oct 18 2013, 14:19

Had some more time in the garage last night, very nearly there now.  Just waiting for a fuel cock to turn up then I can make a fuel pipe.  Leave the paint to harden for a bit then a coat of varnish to protect everything.  Anyway, currently look slike this...




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