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Post by matt86 on Thu Oct 10 2013, 08:29

Villiers wrote:Indeed, Although I like the Blake pumps (Got offered the choice of 50 once, all with hoses, lances and electric motors) I don't like the piss poor amount of water they pump, even a little domestic will out pump one of those in GPH.
quite true there , i think i could pi$$ more than they pump Laughing 

my joseph even pumps a a fair amount for running slow , wonder what it be like if run alot faster

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Post by Villiers on Thu Oct 10 2013, 14:53

[quote="matt86"][quote="Villiers"]Indeed, Although I like the Blake pumps (Got offered the choice of 50 once, all with hoses, lances and electric motors) I don't like the piss poor amount of water they pump, even a little domestic will out pump one of those in GPH.[/quote]quite true there , i think i could pi$$ more than they pump Laughing 

my joseph even pumps a a fair amount for running slow , wonder what it be like if run alot faster [/quote]
It would pump a lot more....Laughing 

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Post by Villiers on Thu Oct 10 2013, 21:41

Bit more cleaning and "rework" done tonight, finished off the valve chamber, cleaned out the threads for the pipework with a 1.25" tap, all cleaned out well with minimum damage found after cleaning.



Nice and clean now, was 4 this size.



The drain plugs were bunged up solid with crap and not a pipe thread, as I only had one of the original plugs I decided to tap them out to 1/4BSP and just add some normal plugs for these.



If you look here you can see what I mean about the castings being very poor, this ridge is about 4mm high and almost as wide.



Finished up with tonight parts coated with a coat of red oxide, next will be the under coat.



All I have left to clean up now are these parts and the pulley, might see if I have a flat belt pulley for this as I think it would look better for it.


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Post by matt86 on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:00

looks like you have been busy Rob .

keep up the good work ... i didnt know screwfix did red oxide Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:07

Ye looking great, soon have her pumping gallons !

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Post by Villiers on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:08

[quote="matt86"]looks like you have been busy Rob .

keep up the good work ... i didnt know screwfix did red oxide Rolling Eyes [/quote]
http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-oxide-primer-red-750ml/48712?_requestid=284733

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Post by matt86 on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:13

is it any good ?

wonder if you can thin it and spray with it ?

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Post by Villiers on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:15

Wouldn't bother thinning it, it's as thin as piss straight from the tin! That's why I like it, it covers well and doesn't "skim" over pits in the casting.

I get on ok with it and I can't paint!

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Post by matt86 on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:19

Villiers wrote:Wouldn't bother thinning it, it's as thin as piss straight from the tin! That's why I like it, it covers well and doesn't "skim" over pits in the casting.

I get on ok with it and I can't paint!
says the one who paints most things Twisted Evil 

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Post by Villiers on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:20

Just goes to show what good paint it is then, doesn't it

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Post by matt86 on Thu Oct 10 2013, 22:25

all this painting talk is making me thinking about painting the fairbanks Embarassed Embarassed 

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Post by Villiers on Fri Oct 11 2013, 07:39

Good idea, will look so much better than covered in rust.

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 08:57

Villiers wrote:Good idea, will look so much better than covered in rust.
one problem i see with that ..... Its not covered in rust its a older maroon paint Laughing Laughing Laughing 

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Post by Villiers on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:05

Bugger that, to hard to polish, new paint is all shiny and bright, not dull and lifeless

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:09

Villiers wrote:Bugger that, to hard to polish, new paint is all shiny and bright, not dull and lifeless
thats exactly what this is ... its all flat and dull .

i need to find some paint now ... its a dark green on the fairbanks but its not like mid brunswick green . Any suppliers of paint thats not too expensive like craftmaster ?

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Post by Villiers on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:11

I'm a "whatever I have" man, most of mine are Dulux painted. Go for Craftmaster, there paint is fairly good.

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:19

Villiers wrote:I'm a "whatever I have" man, most of mine are Dulux painted. Go for Craftmaster, there paint is fairly good.
so is the price tag Rolling Eyes  not sure if need to strip paint all off as its a sound base so could just flatten it back and paint over .

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Post by Villiers on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:33

I always strip right back to more or less bare metal, that way you know you are not going to have problems. More work that way but less chance to go wrong if the paint doesn't take.

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:53

Villiers wrote:I always strip right back to more or less bare metal, that way you know you are not going to have problems. More work that way but less chance to go wrong if the paint doesn't take.
surpose in this case the fairbanks has not got alot of parts to strip off or alot of paint to cover ....


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Post by Foden on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:55

I have been tempted in the past to 'paint over' but in the end I stripped the old off instead and started from scratch.  That way you dont cover a lot of the detail which thick coats of paint tends to do, I dont bother filling pits etc and flatting down though as I'n not trying to win a concours event!Laughing   I looked at my first D type yesterday which was buried under sheets at the rear of the garage and (apart from where I had to remove the head to replace the gasket a few years ago) the nearly 20 year old paint is still good and would shine up nicely.  Just a shame that I cannot get the same paint these days (maker no longer trading) as touching up the damage would improve it no end.

Makes me laugh when I read of folk 'restoring' an engine over a weekend, oh no they haven't!Mad  

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Post by Villiers on Fri Oct 11 2013, 09:59

I'd leave that for a bit Matt, not that bad, my appletop is worse than that and I'd happily rally that for a few more years, give it a squirt of WD40, be supprised how that brings up the paint.

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 10:04

Pete , i might be tempted just to give it a good rub down and flatten off with some wet and dry on the main casting and should be good for a base as the paint it tough as hens teeth !

only thing is the winter in coming up and wonder about paint drying .... guess i will have to have the heather on in the shed .

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 10:06

i taken your comment on board Rob but the pictures do lie in places it needs doing and not keen on the maroon ... plus i need something to do in the winter !

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Post by Foden on Fri Oct 11 2013, 10:09

matt86 wrote:Pete , i might be tempted just to give it a good rub down and flatten off with some wet and dry on the main casting and should be good for a base as the paint it tough as hens teeth !

only thing is the winter in coming up and wonder about paint drying .... guess i will have to have the heather on in the shed .

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Post by matt86 on Fri Oct 11 2013, 10:12

i meant heater lol !

i can do that with the smaller bits but the block is a different story ... unless i make a start soon and get it stripped and painted before gets too cold ....

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