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Post by Lewis MacRae on Wed Aug 21 2013, 19:49

Hi all, does anyone know how to get an oiler working as I cant get mine to work. get pics tomorrow

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by matt86 on Wed Aug 21 2013, 19:54

Lewis MacRae wrote:Hi all, does anyone know how to get an oiler working as I cant get mine to work. get pics tomorrow

thanks
clean it all out and make sure all holes are clear ...

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by kevjhnsn on Wed Aug 21 2013, 21:35

hi lewis
as matt says strip it down and clean it out, the filter guaze and all the holes behind it ,
lightly clean the needle and swill out ,then rebuild go steady not to break the glass ,and see if it works now.

but if the oiler works when engine is stopped and not when running ,the timing is just slightly out and blow back past piston rings pressure,
pushes the oil back in the reservoir and never get to the piston , also when oiler is removed from engine ,put piston to top of bore and see if theres a hole through the casting, it maybe just exhurst slightly late or to small a silencer or gases out to restriked,if thats not working then
ignitor to soon or both ,took me a couple of hours messing to get the running ballanced and oiler flowing like a clock
if so then turn over towards bottom and see if the hole in piston for little end oiling is a the top and not the bottom ,as piston will go both ways around .
aim for around 15 drips per min ,rpm depending
hope this helps ,best guess as not seen or heard it to narrow the possablitys mate
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Re: amanco oiler

Post by matt86 on Wed Aug 21 2013, 21:37

kev 15 seems a bit much i have allways gone by 8 - 10 a min , but a few extra wont hurt .

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by kevjhnsn on Thu Aug 22 2013, 01:43

matt86 wrote:kev 15 seems a bit much i have allways gone by 8 - 10 a min , but a few extra wont hurt .

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it was just a rough guide to get it wet and losend up  like a good w*m@n -"person "
my motto is "the wetter the better, too dry its going to die"Smile 
oils cheaper than an amanco
but all in all lets see if weve got the oiler issue  sorted ,and he will go from there with the project
catch you when i get time as off tomorrow to onslow park, after the great mrs abes has poped around
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Re: amanco oiler

Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Aug 22 2013, 15:12

kevjhnsn wrote:hi lewis
as matt says strip it down and clean it out, the filter guaze and all the holes behind it ,
lightly clean the needle  and swill out ,then rebuild go steady not to break the glass ,and see if it works now.

but if the oiler works when engine is stopped and not when running ,the timing is just slightly out and blow back past piston rings pressure,
 pushes the oil back in the reservoir and never get to the piston  , also when oiler is removed from engine ,put piston to top of bore and see if theres a hole through the casting, it maybe just exhurst slightly late or to small a silencer or gases out to restriked,if thats not working then
ignitor to soon or both ,took me a couple of hours messing to get the running ballanced and oiler flowing like a clock
if so then turn over towards bottom and see if the hole in piston for little end oiling is a the top and not the bottom  ,as piston will go both ways around .
aim for around 15 drips per min ,rpm depending
hope this helps ,best guess as not seen or heard it to narrow the possablitys mate
kev

cheers Kev (and Matt) will clean out the oiler. Just want to get the amanco running at the moment, going to restore her around winter.

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by Villiers on Thu Aug 22 2013, 15:23

If it is a normal Amanco then it will blow back up the oil tube, nearly all the smaller Amanco engines do this, this is because the oiler hole is to close to the hopper and the rings move back beyond the hole at BDC, that is what it is, it is nothing to do with timing, just a flaw in the design. To cure this a "Proper" Amanco oiler has a breather tube fitted to allow the oil to drip down and the air to blow out, if you haven't got the tube all is not lost, just leave the smaller glass tube out of the sight holes below the main chamber.

My Amanco would blow back into the oiler all day long but I never had any problems with it running "dry" and I had it set at about 10 DPM and just gave it a squirt with the oil can every now and then (When I remembered!!)

Just strip it down, clean it up with some white spirit or paraffin and put it back together.

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Aug 22 2013, 18:57

HI, was working on the oiler today and took it apart and its soaking in paraffin over night. Oilier is an AMERICAN INJECTOR CO DETROIT USA.  

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amanco oiler by LewizMacRae, on Flickr


''AMERICAN INJECTOR CO, DETROIT USA by LewizMacRae, on Flickr


amanco oiler by LewizMacRae, on Flickr

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Post by Villiers on Thu Aug 22 2013, 19:13

Yep, proper Amanco oiler, the brass tube inside the glass is the breather tube.

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Aug 22 2013, 19:16

I didn't realise how thick the glass was! Also a picture I forgot to upload.



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Re: amanco oiler

Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:15

Hi guys just a little question, do you have to fill the oiler right up to get it to work as the oiler is still not working after a clean and soak in paraffin overnight. If not what's wrong with it?

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Post by Villiers on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:49

Have you lifted the little flappy thing up that is on the end of the needle?

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:49

yes

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Post by Villiers on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:50

Does it lift the needle off the seat in the bottom?

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:51

not sure I'll go out and check

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Re: amanco oiler

Post by Villiers on Fri Aug 23 2013, 15:53

If it doesn't then you need to adjust the knurled nut on the top until it does, then it will work, if after unwinding the knurled nut it still doesn't drop then the hole is blocked still.

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 16:45

thanks mate, got it working, going to try to get it to run at the weekend!

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 17:07

Is the engine engine ment
to be smoking out of the piston/ bore?

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Post by Villiers on Fri Aug 23 2013, 17:13

[quote="Lewis MacRae"]Is the engine engine ment
to be smoking out of the piston/ bore?[/quote]
Yes if the rings and bore are buggered

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 17:18

Right I heard it was running what number should I have it on the petrol mixer

Reason I asked was to make sure I didn't blow the garage up!

Can I still run it like that?

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Post by Villiers on Fri Aug 23 2013, 19:37

Number on the needle? Depends when it stops 8 stroking and starts running even.

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Fri Aug 23 2013, 20:40

hi sorry for the amount of questions but could I still run the engine until I restore it the way it is or is it not advisable seen as its smoking out of the bore?

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