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Post by billypurves Sun Apr 20 2014, 22:22

Could any one tell me the correct colour of red for a 11/2hp M  Acorn top?
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Post by matt86 Sun Apr 20 2014, 22:40

billypurves wrote:Could any one tell me the correct colour of red for a 11/2hp M  Acorn top?

not thinking on painting something billy ?

Rob might know ....

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Post by Lewis MacRae Sun Apr 20 2014, 23:11

you painting something BILL???????? Not like any of your engines I've seen.

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Post by Appletop Mon Apr 21 2014, 09:16

Not sure but have heard "Post Office Red" banded about as the right colour for the Handyman range of M types, maybe ask Roland on the IF forum. I know my little M is that colour but I didn't paint it.

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Post by NoelA Mon Apr 21 2014, 10:23

Mid Brunswick Green is a popular colour and said to be the correct colour.

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Post by Appletop Mon Apr 21 2014, 10:36

[quote="NoelA"]Mid Brunswick Green is a popular colour and said to be the correct colour.[/quote]

Not for the "Handyman" range. Both my M types should be red, the little 1.5 was sold to Fowlers and went into a cement mixer and the 3 appletop was also a red one. The straight sided hopper handyman was red with a silver hopper.
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Post by NoelA Mon Apr 21 2014, 10:44

I'm a little confused (doesn't take much). Laughing 
I was told my 1.5hp acorn top should be mid Brunswick green is that not correct then?
I'm keen to know as mine is primed and was going to paint it today.

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Post by Appletop Mon Apr 21 2014, 11:08

Your Petter could well be MBG, I do not know what your Petter is, what colour was it when you got it, what model is it and what age?
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Post by matt86 Mon Apr 21 2014, 12:39

mine is definitely green being a universal engine but its the original paint . has worn off and dullened over time but i expect petters was not mid brunswick green .

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Post by Appletop Mon Apr 21 2014, 12:47

[quote="matt86"]mine is definitely green being a universal engine  but its the original paint . has worn off and dullened over time but i expect petters was not mid brunswick green .  

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Just to hull a spanner in... My Appletop is a "Universal" engine and was definitely red, I remember dad getting it back in the '80 and it was red then and original.
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Post by matt86 Mon Apr 21 2014, 16:49

also seen cream ones as well David McCreath has one on a compressor set

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Post by Lewis MacRae Mon Apr 21 2014, 17:39

a cream petter????

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Post by matt86 Mon Apr 21 2014, 18:07

Lewis MacRae wrote:a cream petter????

yeah honestly !

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Post by Lewis MacRae Mon Apr 21 2014, 18:49

original paint or not???....

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Post by matt86 Mon Apr 21 2014, 19:25

Lewis MacRae wrote:original paint or not???....

yes as it was found

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Post by fowlerfan Fri Apr 25 2014, 22:52

Hi folks, Just noticed this interesting thread.

My cream Petter is a lovely engine which is slowly working its way up the queue, I will see if I can post a photo here.  Anyway, the reason it is cream is that the engine came from a waterworks in London where it was part of an air starter compressor set.  The person I bought it from rescued the engine from the water works by chance when it was being demolished and he recalls all the other plant in the building being the same cream colour.  Eventually the owner moved up here but brought the engine with him where it sat in his garage for over 30 years.  Presumably the engine was re-painted many years ago in its working life by the water board to match the colours of the rest of the plant in the building.  There are traces of green underneath the cream so it probably did come out of the works green but was painted many years ago cream.  I do not plan to do anything to this engine other than a service and any repairs needed, the cream will stay as its part of the history of the engine and IMO looks good.  It is mounted on its original cast base but the water cooled compressor is long gone, hopefully I will find something that will go in its place.

I also have a red 3HP Appletop which is a standard Universal Oil Engine, NOT a Handyman.  I have seen a few red Petter's up here which have been found in the Aberdeen area.  All have red paint, black flywheels and the silver Petter script transfer.  

Standard Acorn tops are mid brunswick green but have also seen red, black and maroon in the past.  Black looks very nice when done well and you don't need to worry about all the oil spots !

Will we be seeing your Acorn top at Astle Billy ?

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Post by billypurves Sun Apr 27 2014, 20:19

Hi Dave, Afraid not David. Bradford air cooled is this years choice..........if I can find time to finish.

Crank up at Balboughty this weekend if you are free. Regards Billy.
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Post by fowlerfan Mon Apr 28 2014, 08:22

Hi Billy, won't make Balboughty am afraid, timings this year for the crank up a couple of weeks back and Balboughty didn't suit, hopefully next time.
Looking forward to Astle, will catch up with you then. Might be going to Hethersgill at Carlisle for a look round. Cheers Dave
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Post by Lewis MacRae Mon Apr 28 2014, 17:07

billypurves wrote:Hi Dave,    Afraid not David. Bradford  air cooled is this years choice..........if I can find time to finish.

Crank up at Balboughty this weekend if you are free.  Regards Billy.

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Post by Lewis MacRae Mon Apr 28 2014, 18:52

fowlerfan wrote:Hi folks, Just noticed this interesting thread.

My cream Petter is a lovely engine which is slowly working its way up the queue, I will see if I can post a photo here.  Anyway, the reason it is cream is that the engine came from a waterworks in London where it was part of an air starter compressor set.  The person I bought it from rescued the engine from the water works by chance when it was being demolished and he recalls all the other plant in the building being the same cream colour.  Eventually the owner moved up here but brought the engine with him where it sat in his garage for over 30 years.  Presumably the engine was re-painted many years ago in its working life by the water board to match the colours of the rest of the plant in the building.  There are traces of green underneath the cream so it probably did come out of the works green but was painted many years ago cream.  I do not plan to do anything to this engine other than a service and any repairs needed, the cream will stay as its part of the history of the engine and IMO looks good.  It is mounted on its original cast base but the water cooled compressor is long gone, hopefully I will find something that will go in its place.

I also have a red 3HP Appletop which is a standard Universal Oil Engine, NOT a Handyman.  I have seen a few red Petter's up here which have been found in the Aberdeen area.  All have red paint, black flywheels and the silver Petter script transfer.  

Standard Acorn tops are mid brunswick green but have also seen red, black and maroon in the past.  Black looks very nice when done well and you don't need to worry about all the oil spots !

Will we be seeing your Acorn top at Astle Billy ?

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most of the appletops I've seen have been red up here dave, and most of the shows I go to are in the aberdeen area

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Post by fowlerfan Mon Apr 28 2014, 21:44

Lewis MacRae wrote:
billypurves wrote:Hi Dave,    Afraid not David. Bradford  air cooled is this years choice..........if I can find time to finish.

Crank up at Balboughty this weekend if you are free.  Regards Billy.

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Hi Lewis, Sounds like the SVTEC members crank up at Balboughty, the other week was the open event at Kinross. Cheers Dave
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Post by fowlerfan Mon Apr 28 2014, 21:48

Lewis MacRae wrote:


most of the appletops I've seen have been red up here dave, and most of the shows I go to are in the aberdeen area

Interesting to hear that, I have seen one or two at Scone that were red. I think they were sold to a certain dealer up there possibly to drive mills. I will look up the details of where mine was original sold to to see if that offers any clues. Mine needs the bearings doing but does run well. I don't run it for long as the pulley side has almost 1/4" lift and don't want to cause any more wear on the big end etc until the mains are sorted.
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