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Villiers MK 20 question

Post by graham48 on Tue Jan 19 2016, 07:40

Evening all.. have just done up and got going my MK20. Fiddly blighter to start but last night as it ticked away in the garage I looked at the new muffler,the short pepper pot type. It was doing a little bit of popping and looking at the inside pipe it was glowing bright red!!.The popping showed was a blue "explosion/ignition" inside
So ,is that normal? If not what could be the answer why and possible solution?

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by ray fisher on Tue Jan 19 2016, 09:25

By no means a mk20 specialist but the first thing I would ckeck is the ignition timing followed by mixture.

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by Woodsman on Tue Jan 19 2016, 10:04

Hi Graham,
Definitely re-check timing.
Did you lap in the valves? If so you may need to check / adjust tappet clearance, if not maybe the exhaust valve is leaking un-burnt fuel into the silencer?

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by graham48 on Tue Jan 19 2016, 19:13

Thanks Gents, I did lap the valves ,will recheck all. The spark plug is light brown in saying that the needle valve is very fussy.
Just to be sure in my mind, TDC is the top movement of the piston not the top of the block? And do the points have to be open or just opening?
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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by ray fisher on Tue Jan 19 2016, 20:12

Points should be just open when the piston is 3/16" BTDC on the inlet stroke 12thou clearance when points fully open.. TDC is when Piston is at top of stroke.
To save taking the head off about 12deg of crankshaft rotation before TDC is about right.
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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by ray fisher on Tue Jan 19 2016, 23:18

That should have said compression stroke after the inlet confused

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by graham48 on Tue Jan 19 2016, 23:26

Thank you Ray..I'll take up the offer of the manual...medway48@xtra.co.nz
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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by Woodsman on Wed Jan 20 2016, 10:51

Hi Graham,
To set needle valve, screw in still it stops, not to hard, then unscrew about two to two and half turns. If tappet adjustment is necessary be careful not to drop the shims under the tappet caps if you remove the caps.

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by StewartH on Wed Jan 20 2016, 16:25

Bots wont spam him as much as all the Lister, Petter and other engine nuts on here will Smile

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by Woodsman on Wed Jan 20 2016, 16:41

You are so right Stewart Very Happy

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by graham48 on Thu Jan 21 2016, 08:26

Thanks Gents . one and all. Amazing what a day makes.... Checked points,tappets etc and decided to rip off the head and start again.
I'm not an amateur when it comes to small motors, motorcycles but i was starting to doubt myself hence all the questions about TDC etc
I had used a DTI and thought I was pretty accurate but in fact the piston was more likely 3/16 past TDC. Must have messed it up when tightening the flywheel.
Redid it rest the carb as and it's running great with no excessive heat in the exhaust and it starts good
Thanks Ray and Woodsman ....as for the bots and germs more work for the delete button

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Re: Villiers MK 20 question

Post by Woodsman on Thu Jan 21 2016, 09:14

Well done Graham. It's easy to mess up when tightening flywheel nut - done it loads of times Smile

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