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Post by rubythursday on Wed Oct 09 2013, 21:20

The time has come the walrus said to talk of many things: of engines, oil and sealing gaskets.



The engine before work commences.



The crankcase door removed, it's quite clean inside



Barrel nuts loosened ready for a lift off.



Cleaning the combined oil and fuel pump reveals a previous repair - it looks as though a fixing bolt was loose and it has worn the hole, a piece of copper tube has been soldered in place to bring the hole back to size.

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Re: Blackstone No Trouble

Post by Lewis MacRae on Wed Oct 09 2013, 21:31

Looking good are you going to just leave it as it is?

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Post by rubythursday on Thu Oct 10 2013, 16:48

I'm going to have to paint it as if you look at the other side of the head it has been welded and levelled with filler. Plus most of the top half doesn't have paint having being stripped by the previous owner. I'm going to lift the barrel as it has been stood for 30 years and I need to check the rings aren't stuck.

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Post by rubythursday on Fri Oct 11 2013, 16:52

Off with its head!


Piston and bore look fine


Wire nails used as split pins on the big end!!

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Post by rubythursday on Sat Oct 12 2013, 16:30

Today's progress - Valves refaced and seats recut. Not much to play with as the valves are nearly pocketing.



Coat of primer on the barrel



First flywheel is off



Both flywheels off


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Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 16:56

Getting there Tony, good to see someone else uses Screwfix paint!

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Sat Oct 12 2013, 16:57

What colour is the blackstone going to be

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Post by rubythursday on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:03

Blackstone green
It came with 2 litres.
I like screwfix primer it flats nicely.

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:07

rubythursday wrote:Blackstone green
It came with 2 litres.
I like screwfix primer it flats nicely.
may have to invest in some myself , do you know if they do grey ?

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Re: Blackstone No Trouble

Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:08

Er....think the name is[color=#cc3333][b] [u]RED[/u][/b][/color] oxide.....

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:10

Villiers wrote:Er....think the name is RED oxide.....
Rob i bloody know what colour red oxide is .... il go look for myself then ...

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Re: Blackstone No Trouble

Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:11

lol! lol! lol! lol! 

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Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:14

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=red+oxide

Or

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=grey+oxide

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:14

http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=primer&fh_view_size=20

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Re: Blackstone No Trouble

Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:15

[quote="matt86"]http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=primer&fh_view_size=20[/quote]
So that's a no then.

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:16

Villiers wrote:
matt86 wrote:http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=primer&fh_view_size=20
So that's a no then.
no but do white ....

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Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:22

White is no good, if you get a chip it really shows up.

And as for the fish.....

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:24

Villiers wrote:White is no good, if you get a chip it really shows up.

And as for the fish.....
il stick with red but though dark green on red would make it darker ??

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Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:25

Not really that much Matt, and for what we are doing it's fine.

I always maintain 2 coats of red oxide, 2 undercoat and 2 top coat, in reality it's 2 of red oxide, then sod it, 2 top coats!

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Post by matt86 on Sat Oct 12 2013, 18:30

Villiers wrote:Not really that much Matt, and for what we are doing it's fine.

I always maintain 2 coats of red oxide, 2 undercoat and 2 top coat, in reality it's 2 of red oxide, then sod it, 2 top coats!
sounds like me .... im tempted to make a start on the fairbanks with all this painting going around and get the block done 1st before the bad weather sets in and take 3 weeks to dry !

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a chap called biomed says about he used on stationary engines .... name rings a bell

http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-oxide-primer-red-750ml/48712#rating_link_anchor

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Post by Villiers on Sat Oct 12 2013, 19:07

[quote="matt86"][quote="Villiers"]Not really that much Matt, and for what we are doing it's fine.

I always maintain 2 coats of red oxide, 2 undercoat and 2 top coat, in reality it's 2 of red oxide, then sod it, 2 top coats![/quote]sounds like me .... im tempted to make a start on the fairbanks with all this painting going around and get the block done 1st before the bad weather sets in and take 3 weeks to dry !

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http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-oxide-primer-red-750ml/48712#rating_link_anchor[/quote]
So there is!

As for painting in winter, never had a problem as long as the air is dry, if it's damp then gloss paint goes "milky", primer is a porouse paint anyway so that isn't a problem.

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Post by rubythursday on Sat Oct 12 2013, 19:19

I have used the grey in the past, it is just as good. I used the red under the Hornsby Maroon, would have probably used grey if I had had any!

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Post by callum12 on Sun Oct 13 2013, 17:31

nice engine, do you know how much it weighs, must be about 1/2 a ton!!
looking forward to seeing it fully restored.Very Happy Very Happy 

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Post by rubythursday on Sun Oct 13 2013, 18:13

I think the engine is about 380kg but the trolley and wheels are heavy so I would think your guess of 1/2 ton isn't far away. I can just lift a flywheel, mind I do have a bad back, hence the chain block to take the flywheel off.

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Post by rubythursday on Mon Oct 14 2013, 19:16

The crank, it should polish up ok. I have put a micrometer on it and it is ok.



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