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Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 19:41

Hi all, As some of you may know i'm re-building My 3-1/2hp Amanco, at the moment i'm trying to get my head round the operation of the ignitor set up and how it operates! from looking at other pictures it seem that mine is missing a picker spring, does anybody know where i can get one ? it had a sort of adjustment screw apparatus fitted when i got it , what i can't work out is what the pricker spring does ie hold the pricker head down or lift it up and over the ignitor!Here's a couple of pictures of it.
Thanks in advance, Karl.


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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by Lewis MacRae on Wed Dec 04 2013, 19:44

looks nice Karl, are you restoring it? I noticed there was Amanco picker springs on ebay.

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Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 19:51

Lewis MacRae wrote:looks nice Karl, are you restoring it? I noticed there was Amanco picker springs on ebay.

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Yes Lewis its being heavily re-built including a brand new flywheel , i'll look for the spring, do you have a link number ?

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Wed Dec 04 2013, 19:53

Sorry no I don't, don't even know if they are still on as it was a few days ago I saw them although there is a whole ignitor on there. You have me intrigued, how are you making a new flywheel or is it of a doner engine?

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 19:59

Lewis MacRae wrote:Sorry no I don't, don't even know if they are still  on as it was a few days ago I saw them although there is a whole ignitor on there. You have me intrigued, how are you making a new flywheel or is it of a doner engine?
Easy its a copy-cast job, I just built up the outside rim and center boss with tape to allow for the shrinkage !

The new one is on the left,its currently waiting for me to find time to machine it!

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 20:12

Cor blimy now thats what i call dedicated to get an engine going again .

did that cost much ?

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 20:16

matt86 wrote:Cor blimy now thats what i call dedicated to get an engine going again .

did that cost much ?

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Nah not really, I know the people at the foundry through my Steam train work, they tagged it onto the back of a bigger order !

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 20:20

EarlBathurst wrote:
matt86 wrote:Cor blimy now thats what i call dedicated to get an engine going again .

did that cost much ?

matt
Nah not really, I know the people at the foundry through my Steam train work, they tagged it onto the back of a bigger order !
ahhh thats handy to know Laughing Laughing 

great job , do you know anyone who can machine it ? if you dont i know someone who has the facilities , matt

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 20:46

matt86 wrote:
EarlBathurst wrote:
matt86 wrote:Cor blimy now thats what i call dedicated to get an engine going again .

did that cost much ?

matt
Nah not really, I know the people at the foundry through my Steam train work, they tagged it onto the back of a bigger order !
ahhh thats handy to know Laughing Laughing 

great job , do you know anyone who can machine it ? if you dont i know someone who has the facilities , matt
Yeah, I'll do it myself next time i'm at Didcot, We have just about every version of lathe/boring/milling machine you can think of, some of it is the original 1932 belt driven stuff !

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Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 21:41

wouldnt mind a trip on a footplate or even a look behind the scenes when your at didcot one day as im not far from there as you know .

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 21:52

matt86 wrote:wouldnt mind a trip on a footplate or even a look behind the scenes when your at didcot one day as im not far from there as you know .

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The next time i'm driving You can spend as long as you like with us, or just give me a bell and if i'm there i'll show you round !
Karl.

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Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 22:07

EarlBathurst wrote:
matt86 wrote:wouldnt mind a trip on a footplate or even a look behind the scenes when your at didcot one day as im not far from there as you know .

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The next time i'm driving You can spend as long as you like with us, or just give me a bell and if i'm there i'll show you round !
Karl.
Cheers mate would be great , as ive driven traction engines and ploughing engines and been on footplates of rollers before but that was a good few years ago . even though i was driving darrens marshal a few months back , always wanted to be on a footplate of a loco but never know of a chance without paying a stupid amount of money !

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Wed Dec 04 2013, 22:16

matt86 wrote:
EarlBathurst wrote:
matt86 wrote:wouldnt mind a trip on a footplate or even a look behind the scenes when your at didcot one day as im not far from there as you know .

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The next time i'm driving You can spend as long as you like with us, or just give me a bell and if i'm there i'll show you round !
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Cheers mate would be great , as ive driven traction engines and ploughing engines and been on footplates of rollers before but that was a good few years ago . even though i was driving darrens marshal a few months back , always wanted to be on a footplate of a loco but never know of a chance without paying a stupid amount of money !

matt
Well, i've just taken over as the manager of 6023 (google the number) You'll see what 120 tons will be like to drive or even throw coal at its 11ft firebox! i will be Steaming it a few times in the new year i'll let you know when !

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Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 22:26

Il have a look , and i bet it alot differnt than steaming a traction engine or the like

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Post by matt86 on Wed Dec 04 2013, 22:27

like this

http://www.6023.co.uk/

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Post by EarlBathurst on Thu Dec 05 2013, 08:18

Yes that's her, anyway we disrespect from my original question, what does the pricier spring actually do?

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Post by matt86 on Thu Dec 05 2013, 09:46

EarlBathurst wrote:Yes that's her, anyway we disrespect from my original question, what does the pricier spring actually do?
Keeps the tension on the picker , the bolt on top is fine adjustment for trip timing and lock down with locknut . If you look at my choreboy topic it will all become clear . ( chore boy topic under this one in same section)

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by StewartH on Thu Dec 05 2013, 10:20

Greetings Karl, I look forward to seeing this restoration unfold -

....as a steam nut as well ( I am trying to raise funds for the Nairobi Steam museum to restore some of their exotic exhibits a mountain class Beyer-Peacock 4-8-2+2-8-4 from East African Railways and another the 4-8-4+4-8-4 which is a Garratt articulated locomotive - we have 3 running for tourist runs through the game parks (serious foot plate fun here!)- and some fun items including the 'cow catcher' seating on the front FD Roosevelt used for shooting (not so PC anymore!)) and the claws from the real 'man eaters of Tsavo! - nothing like the Victorians to build a line rising up 5000 feet through lion infested bush! - hence its called the 'Lunatic Line' more detail here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi_Railway_Museum

... but back to the point...I saw your engine 6023 had to be reduced in height by 4 inches - is this a modern requirement for bridges that weren't originally around?

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Post by EarlBathurst on Thu Dec 05 2013, 19:32

StewartH wrote:Greetings Karl, I look forward to seeing this restoration unfold -

....as a steam nut as well ( I am trying to raise funds for the Nairobi Steam museum to restore some of their exotic exhibits a mountain class Beyer-Peacock 4-8-2+2-8-4 from East African Railways and another the 4-8-4+4-8-4 which is a Garratt articulated locomotive - we have 3 running for tourist runs through the game parks (serious foot plate fun here!)- and some fun items including the 'cow catcher' seating on the front FD Roosevelt used for shooting (not so PC anymore!)) and the claws from the real 'man eaters of Tsavo! - nothing like the Victorians to build a line rising up 5000 feet through lion infested bush! - hence its called the 'Lunatic Line' more detail here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi_Railway_Museum

... but back to the point...I saw your engine 6023  had to be reduced in height by 4 inches - is this a modern requirement for bridges that weren't originally around?

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Hi Hamish, Some interesting stuff you have there ! Yes i'm afraid any loco that wants to operate on the national rail network has to be 13'1'' or less, being as 6023 was 13'5'' a new chimney, safety valves and lower cab have to be made and fitted!

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Dec 05 2013, 19:42

changing the subject completely, are you shying a way from the listers, you know you now have a Petter amanco and a couple of rustons and a couple wolseleys

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Re: Karl's Amanco 3-1/2HP

Post by EarlBathurst on Thu Dec 05 2013, 20:33

matt86 wrote:
EarlBathurst wrote:Yes that's her, anyway we disrespect from my original question, what does the pricier spring actually do?
Keeps the tension on the picker , the bolt on top is fine adjustment for trip timing and lock down with locknut . If you look at my choreboy topic it will all become clear . ( chore boy topic under this one in same section)

Matt
Some progress today, Finally worked out how the pricker operates, i have made a temporary spring the thing seems to do the job when turning over by hand.

also i've made all the fuel pipes from the tank to the carb, made and fitted the tank stand/box.
Two obsticals now remain, i still need to find the fuel valves and their seating fittings for the carb, o and there's the flywheels to finish machining !

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Post by EarlBathurst on Thu Dec 05 2013, 20:35

Lewis MacRae wrote:changing the subject completely, are you shying a way from the listers, you know you now have a Petter amanco and a couple of rustons and a couple wolseleys

Nope, I just take them as they come, And am pushing them along, Before i have to get stuck into The King .

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Post by Lewis MacRae on Thu Dec 05 2013, 20:51

is that a primer thtas on the engine?

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Post by EarlBathurst on Thu Dec 05 2013, 20:57

Lewis MacRae wrote:is that a primer thtas on the engine?
Yup, red oxide, that's how it'll stay until I've made, aquired then test assembled everything ! Then it'll be dismantled for painting !

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Post by matt86 on Thu Dec 05 2013, 21:07

karl you understood what i explained about the spring ?

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