www.ukengineforum.forumotion.com
Please log in , the forum is open to guests who are now able to view most sections, feel free to become a member , you will then be able to post and reply to topics.

Join the forum, it's quick and easy

www.ukengineforum.forumotion.com
Please log in , the forum is open to guests who are now able to view most sections, feel free to become a member , you will then be able to post and reply to topics.

Amanco rebuild early days

+7
Robotstar5
chuffchuff
Dazzla
blue cat
chrismac
Appletop
philipagri
11 posters

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Woodsman Sun 8 Mar 2020 - 10:21

chuffchuff wrote: I'll need to suss out how to send a personal message now. scratch

Or click on the MP button underneath profile on right hand side.
Don't ask me why it's MP not PM ? Rolling Eyes

_________________
Regards Paul
Tha can alus tell a Yorkshireman - but tha can't tell him much.
Woodsman
Woodsman
Admin

Posts : 2691
Join date : 2014-08-24
Age : 73
Location : God's own county

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Robotstar5 Sun 8 Mar 2020 - 10:34

Not sure how you plan to weld them, but if it was me I'd make the spokes a couple of mm shorter so they sit below the level of the rim, bevel the rim holes then you can puddle weld them in followed by linishing the welds smooth.

_________________
Stuart
Robotstar5
Robotstar5
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1087
Join date : 2018-09-25

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Sun 8 Mar 2020 - 10:53

Hi Stuart. I turned up the amperage and burned in the weld then ground back to the wheel profile. Your right though I should really have shortened the spokes.iagree I took the lazy option Embarassed

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Mon 30 Mar 2020 - 17:35

Nearly there now with just the fuel tank to paint and fit.  
I guess I'll go with the coil for the first start as not sure of how healthy the mag is.

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 P1060210

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Robotstar5 Mon 30 Mar 2020 - 22:36

Looking good Thumbs Up

_________________
Stuart
Robotstar5
Robotstar5
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1087
Join date : 2018-09-25

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Woodsman Tue 31 Mar 2020 - 13:18

Very nice! Well done that man.

_________________
Regards Paul
Tha can alus tell a Yorkshireman - but tha can't tell him much.
Woodsman
Woodsman
Admin

Posts : 2691
Join date : 2014-08-24
Age : 73
Location : God's own county

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by dunitrong Tue 31 Mar 2020 - 20:44

That looks well. Like how you raised the engine up on the trolley.Arthur

dunitrong
Expert
Expert

Posts : 71
Join date : 2014-05-29
Age : 79
Location : Pontefract

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by mattblack Tue 31 Mar 2020 - 21:27

That's looking very smart... almost a shame to run it!

_________________
Specialist in precision guesswork.
mattblack
mattblack
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 829
Join date : 2019-06-21
Location : Leicester, me duck...

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by blue cat Thu 2 Apr 2020 - 19:14

I'm a bit concerned that you could pull the front wheel assembly off the wood of the trolley especially on a grass field. There's a big leverage between the lower handle attachment point on the front axle and the pivot on the trolley. I would fit a stabilising bar between the front axle and either the wood chassis or rear wheels. The bar should be pivoted at the front end on the same centre as the axle. Just my opinion....

_________________
blue cat  cat

blue cat
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1044
Join date : 2013-10-10

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 18:08

Hi Blue Cat. No need to be concerned the axle is VERY solidly fixed I'll possibly post a photo to show the way it's secured. Very Happy

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by maryalice Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 18:23

chuffchuff wrote:Hi Blue Cat. No need to be concerned the axle is VERY solidly fixed I'll possibly post a photo to show the way it's secured. Very Happy

I agree with blue cat, looking at the section of the axle supports they will fold very easily.

Maryalice

maryalice
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1235
Join date : 2010-01-23
Age : 70
Location : Bedfordshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 20:47

Ach, Maryalice your wrong to agree as you can have no real idea of the underside fixing design or the sectional size of the materials used. I'm fully confident there won't be a problem unless I decide to pull it over rough grass at over 50 MPH of course. Lol. affraid

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by maryalice Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 21:10

Sadly that means I wasted nearly 50 years as a mechanical engineer, I wont bother you with dimensions etc but its a doddle to calculate what sizes of angle iron you have used, you just measure a known part and by comparing it with the real thing you can scale up thus obtaining the sizes of your trolley.
There I shall leave it.

Maryalice

maryalice
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1235
Join date : 2010-01-23
Age : 70
Location : Bedfordshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Tue 7 Apr 2020 - 22:01

I'd better pull it to bits  and start again then.  cat  Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 420530612 lol!

Seriously though I do agree with all  iagree  that the draw-bar looks to be on the feeble side it was constructed from the stock pile of materials that I have lying around and if I'd had suitable heavier material around I'd have used it I agree that I should probably fit vertical bracing's and I may do so yet. However I did carry out a fourteen stone+ static and dynamic load test with me standing/jumping on the draw-bar frame bounce  it didn't break or deform so hopefully will do the job for a while at least.
Thanks for you observations though.

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Wed 8 Apr 2020 - 7:01

I started the engine for the first time yesterday and happily it burst into life on the very first crank-up.  Very Happy
I hooked up the L.T. coil for the start then with it running I quickly disconnected the coil and swapped over to the mag, very pleasingly it continued to run as I did have some doubts on the condition of the mag. I'll now make up a period looking knife type switch so that I can swap over from battery and coil to magneto. I haven't tried starting it from the mag but I believe this required a good turn of speed to get the mag operational?
Prior to the startup I hooked up a ammeter to the coil this showed me when the igniter points were opening and closing and where the timing was set to. The coil draws around 10 amp on a 12 V supply.
Prior to start-up of course I was a not sure at what speed the governor would cut-in so was ready for a quick ignition disconnect however this was unnecessary as the speed was OK if a little on the fast side.  
All is well with the engine apart from the fuel tap leaking past the cork seal, not to be unexpected really as the fuel tap had lain in a box of old brass fitting for over thirty years. I was pleased to see that the engine runs just fine with no check valve in the fuel line. As expected.
The dog bowl was placed under the mixer to catch excess fuel as I intentionally flooded the intake to ensure a rich mixture for the first start. Don't worry though the dog got her bowl back washed in time for dinner. lol!  
I guess I could say now all revved-up and nowhere to go due to this dreaded corona virus. Crying or Very sad

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 P1060214

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 P1060213

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Robotstar5 Wed 8 Apr 2020 - 10:38

Looks good Thumbs Up

What wood have you used for the base?.

_________________
Stuart
Robotstar5
Robotstar5
Life Member
Life Member

Posts : 1087
Join date : 2018-09-25

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by chuffchuff Wed 8 Apr 2020 - 13:13

Hi Stuart,  
The base was made from a unit top that I used to have in my sitting room a very long time ago, it's actually three planks of wood that are jointed, the jointing was done by my late father. I think from memory the wood was "Meranti". If you look closely at some of the pictures you may be able to see the tongue insert between the grooved joints. I intend to make hardwood end caps to hide this.

All materials in the trolley was from stock I have lying around apart from the wheel rims that I machined from sections of a scrap hydraulic accumulator bottle I bought, as it turned out this wasn't a great idea as the cut bottle sections were found to be well out of round and needed a lot of machining to make them round, most of the cut-off sections had to be scrapped as they were just too far out of round.

chuffchuff
A true Stationary engine owner
A true Stationary engine owner

Posts : 141
Join date : 2020-01-09
Location : Aberdeenshire

Back to top Go down

Amanco rebuild early days - Page 2 Empty Re: Amanco rebuild early days

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 2 of 2 Previous  1, 2

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum